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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Helsinki just had 0 traffic deaths this past year because they focused all their funding on improving public transportation and bike lanes, disincentivizing car use, and punishing motorists who use their phone or speed by setting up cameras.

I sure wish somebody would look at that incredible success story and try to emulate it here. Unfortunately, public transit seems to be getting less reliable over time instead, which just encourages more car use.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago
[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

We just got seatbelt/phone use cameras in Canberra, Australia. We've had stopped cameras for more than 20 years, most now average your speed over several kilometres (on one highway for a couple of hundred kilometres) and disincentive speeding effectively

[–] bluemite@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Whenever someone brings up a European city like this, they seem to ignore the fact that the entire country of Finland is roughly the size of the state of Montana. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Okay? We can still compare Helsinki to a similar sized American city. I don't see how that's unfair.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The greater Helsinki area has literally more than 20% of the entire Finnish population, and way more people than the largest city in Montana (Billings)

So, how exactly is what you said even remotely relevant to anything?

[–] bluemite@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Public transit makes a lot more sense with so many people in one area, that's how.

On the other hand, the population of Montana is a lot more spread out, so having effective public transit is more difficult for various reasons.