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[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Wait so Greta is a liberal and doing right but other liberals are enables but leftists are ... checks notes... circle jerking themselves to completion over a captured "ally"? Make it make sense

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Greta is very clearly not a liberal. She's been very vocally anticapitalist these past few years.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You can be liberal and anticapitalist

[-] causepix@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You quite literally cannot. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it's not. It means I believe in personal liberty over economic system

[-] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Economic liberalism is associated with markets and private ownership of capital assets. Economic liberals tend to oppose government intervention and protectionism in the market economy when it inhibits free trade and competition, but tend to support government intervention where it protects property rights, opens new markets or funds market growth, and resolves market failures.[2]

Shitlibs even too lazy for wikipedia

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

People who call themselves liberal are not economic liberal you completely dense morons. In the sense that the government can't seize your shit for no reason well ddduuuuhhhhh MOST people are going to feel that way that doesn't mean we can't tax the shit out of billionaires or drag them out into the street

[-] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Anti-capitalism is when you tax billionaires. The more you tax them the more anti-capitalister you are

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

that doesn’t mean we can’t tax the shit out of billionaires or drag them out into the street

"I believe in personal liberty over economic system"

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

A billionaire is no longer a person

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A millionaire with 999M$ is a person but +1$ make him not a person anymore? How you judge that? Where is the line in this shit ideology that the personal liberty above all stops people to gain more riches?

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The line is their riches do not supercede other people's rights

[-] causepix@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you completely dense morons

You not wanting to understand what we're telling you does not make us the morons.

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In the sense that the government can't seize your shit [...] that doesn't mean we can't tax the shit out of billionaires

Doesn't it? Where do you draw the line between taxes and government seizure, especially in the context of capital owners? Also, wouldn't it be far more effective for the government to simply own the means of production and operate at the behest of the people? Does taxing capitalists more while still allowing them to have full control over the means of production - which they'll use to influence the people and government in their favor - not simply set up the same situation we find ourselves in now, just some amount of time down the road?

I would say it does set that up (in fact it has in the past, just look at what was in the new deal and how it's been eroded since it was signed. Assuming you're familiar with US history...), and that is why liberalism is incompatible with anti-capitalism.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

No, liberalism means INDEPENDENT of the economic system I believe in personal liberty. Billionaires shitting on everything INTERFERES with my and my peoples personal liberty therefore it must be destroyed

[-] Kurroth@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

You basically want the government to only intervene in your life or people's life in ways you agree with.

If you want to call yourself a liberal, you are a pretty piss poor one.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Yes I would prefer the government to protect my rights not actively attack them. If that makes me "a pIsS Poor LiBeRaL" then so be it

[-] causepix@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You might feel that way, but committed ideological liberals would strongly disagree with you.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

And those liberals are who?.. JohnTravolta.gif

[-] causepix@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh you know, only the ones making the laws.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

So which neoliberal dems are referring to themselves as liberals? No, it is a derrogatory perjative to both the nazis and the leftists at this point, by design. Most of the dems are going to claim to be either progressive or conservative

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, if you ignore the meaning of both of those words.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Economic liberalism is associated with markets and private ownership of capital assets. Economic liberals tend to oppose government intervention and protectionism in the market economy when it inhibits free trade and competition, but tend to support government intervention where it protects property rights, opens new markets or funds market growth, and resolves market failures.[2]

Shitlibs even too lazy for wikipedia

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not economically liberal

[-] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago
[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

What do you want me to read "the extensive guide to felating Carl marx while ignoring real life and confirming my own bias"? Okay

[-] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah sounds like a good place to start lol

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