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Unsurprising! So I guess meat and dairy products are going to become astronomically expensive?

The one thing that I can't find is a palatable alternative to cheese. Are there any yet?

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[–] Dave 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm honestly not sure how the fonterra this would work. Farmers own shares based out their milk output. They are required to own a certain number of shares based on this. If lab grown milk starts getting processed through fonterra, wouldn't the owners of the lab buy the fonterra shares? If fonterra owns the lab, do current dairy farmers just transition to being owners that aren't contributing milk?

And in regards to the towns, it's worth considering the world is a different place than it was 100 or even 50 years ago. Forestry workers can drive from a bigger city, do a days work, and head home. They don't need the small towns like they used to.

I think anything is just speculation, you can't normally predict the effects of huge change ahead of time. But it will be an interesting next few decades.

[–] 2tapry 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If fonterra owns the lab, do current dairy farmers just transition to being owners that aren’t contributing milk?

I suspect Frontera would 'pay' some farmers to transition to produce the raw ingredients required to produce alternatives. Thus, their expertise could continue to be utilised along with their export strengths. The issue will be with those stubborn farmers who refuse or are reluctant to change - the almighty dollar will speak to them eventually.

Forestry workers can drive from a bigger city...

Don't see that here. There are local Forestry, Sawmill, and Transport (logging) workers who live in the community and, of what I see, contribute more to the town than dairy workers. It takes very few people to run a modern, robotic dairy these days. Usually just the owner/manager and a couple of foreign workers - often seasonal, so they come and go, most living on the farms, not in the township. Very few farmers shop locally, they tend to travel into the "city" to purchase and/or get groceries delivered (as do I). A few spend a bit at the pub/club, but not as much as you would probably think.

I personally believe there would be an increase in population with a move away from dairy - but that's just my thinking based on what I see.

[–] Dave 1 points 1 year ago

It's interesting to think about. We'll have to remember to come back to your predictions once the tipping point has been reached.