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We are animals. Simplistic in many ways many animals eat meat, and that's ok. We do it too. We should do it much less from an environmental standpoint. Meat is good to eat, however there is nothing wrong with not eating meat. Plants feel too, not like us for sure but they communicate damage to one another.
Animals also extremely commonly rape and murder, and humans do it too. But we generally try to avoid animal instincts that cause suffering, even if many people naturally would do those things.
Yes. All of this to say, humans are animals. Thanks.
Yes and just because we do it doesn't make it okay, no? Humans kill each other just like animals, but I'm not going to use that as a justification for killing someone.
Humans kill each just like animals because we are animals. If your back was agaisnt the wall would you fight back like the animal you are? Or would you run away like the animal you are? People do some crazy shit when we remove this thin veneer of human superiority
Yes I 100% agree which is why if anyone is in that situation I won't fault them. To quote my brother after studying psychology for 4 years, humans are smart monkeys. The fact that we live in a world where that exists doesn't make me not try and push for a better world though.
I'm not so sure were "smart" monkeys, clever yes, but not smart. And i agree, let's make the world a better place! I'd love for lab grown meat to replace factory farming, I hate factory farming, not only for the way animals are treated, but for the environmental issues. Let's push for a better world
Appeal to nature fallacy
Are you implying that people aren't animals?
No, drag's implying people don't have to do something just because it's natural. Dying of dysentery is natural, but we try to avoid that. That's why your argument that we should eat meat because it's natural is silly
Eating isn't natural? Dying or dysentery is natural, that's why people still die of dysentery. My argument that animals eat meat isnt silly
Drag believes you that animals eat meat, but that's not a good reason for humans to eat meat. That would be an appeal to nature fallacy. Dingos eat babies, but humans shouldn't.
Humans are animals. It's not an appeal to nature fallacy we are animals lol. Are humans somehow special are we better than the rest of nature? We're superior or something?
We have the potential to be. Our big brains let us make ethical choices. Vegans are better than animals, yeah. But you're not. Because you don't use your big brain to make ethical choices. Your choices are what define your goodness, and you don't seem to believe you have a choice.
I'm happy to see you're not full of yourself! Tell you what lets send you up to the north where plants don't grow and let me know how long you wait till you eat meat.
Drag will be fine, drag'll just resort to eating carnists
So murder and cannibalism, and meat eating? Fucking lol. Way to denigrate the first nations by being "better" than them.
Well they didn't have selfish white people to eat until recently, so for them it couldn't be helped.
So vegans "aren't" superior beings? Lol
Drag thinks tribal societies tended to do the best they could, just like modern vegans. Selfish white people who drive cars everywhere and eat factory farmed meat are not doing the best they could, so drag would rank them as less ethical than vegans and most indigenous peoples.
Only selfish white people?
Yeah, white people who aren't selfish don't eat meat or drive cars. Drag likes unselfish white people.
Selfish any other ethnicity is ok?
No, it's just less common to see in the anglosphere so drag didn't think it's a problem worth bringing up right now. Drag gets that you want to make an "all lives matter" kind of point, but you have to consider statistics. Selfish white people control our entire society and are the biggest threat to safety and liberty.
No I'm really not lol. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Your turning a classwar into a race war
You're the one who tried to racialise meat eating as if big macs are an indigenous custom. It's nice to see the backpedaling, but next time please don't try to use inuit culture as a prop to win an argument.
Giving facts is racialising? Cool. Nice false equivalence though. Please don't try to use backpedalling as a prop to win a argument.