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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by andros_rex@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

This is a huge meltdown in conservative circles, and considering how spineless the OU administration is, they’ll probably end up nixing the professor. They are currently working on getting rid of the African American studies department as is.

Edit: absolutely bonkers

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 186 points 9 months ago

FTA:

A psychology student at the University of Oklahoma says the failing grade she received on an essay where she cited the Bible was a violation of her right to free speech. Her instructors said she failed to use empirical evidence and called parts of her essay offensive.

In her essay, which was in response to an article about how people are perceived based on societal expectations of gender, junior Samantha Fulnecky wrote that traditional gender roles should not be considered stereotypes, according to an earlier Oklahoman report. She cited the Bible to support her stance that eliminating gender in society would be "detrimental" because that would put people "farther from God's original plan for humans."

It's psychology, not religious studies. She got a failing grade because she said thing and used a shitty source to back it up. Psychology is not religious studies.

[-] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago

the bigger issue is she (and a lot of others) believe the Bible to be a true and valid source of information. Critical thinking is just not a thing this generation.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 80 points 9 months ago

This is not a generational issue. People are less likely to be dogmatically religious than in the past.

[-] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Yup. The real problem is the 24-7 conservative news outrage cycle.

This is a rather mundane thing that isn't worthy of the news.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I'm not so sure that critical thinking is getting any better. And I seriously wonder what AI slop will do to the brains of those that already have terrible critical thinking skills and zero media literacy.

I've been watching the adherence to xtianity generally trending down about 1% per year for quite a while, though, so that's promising.

[-] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Looking at the generations before, Ive come to the conclusion that critical thinking is just not an American skill set.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago

Exactly.

She used a shitty source (and probably nothing else.)

Even if you say psychology is a wishy-washy science, it’s still science. The teacher failed her for not providing empirical evidence based on proper studies. The student is going to have a hard time of it, if her only response is to scream persecution. (And yes, that’s exactly what’s going on here.)

“Freedom of speech” is bullshit. She got to say what she wanted, and now she gets to get the grade she deserves.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

“Freedom of speech” is bullshit. She got to say what she wanted, and now she gets to get the grade she deserves.

This was the biggest failing of (at least) my generation (gen-x): we were only taught that we had a freedom of speech, but never taught that there still could be consequences.

The professor has the right to express their side, and unfortunately will probably suffer the consequences, thud negating the bad grade. This will only serve to embolden said psychology student to keep doing what they did, and other professors will allow it to happen, lest they suffer the same consequences themselves.

I used to say that the system is broken, but now I realize it’s merely working as intended.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 9 months ago

This was the biggest failing of (at least) my generation (gen-x): we were only taught that we had a freedom of speech, but never taught that there still could be consequences.

When the majority of examples of freedom of speech were about how we have to allow shit like Nazi marches on capitals because speech is so sacred then it certainly look like there aren't any consequences.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

They really should’ve focused on teaching Popper’s Paradox instead.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

be lazy college student

don’t want to bother with the readings

write half baked essay I do no research for (which literally says that bullying is not bad “The article discussed peers using teasing as a way to enforce gender norms. I do not necessarily see this as a problem.”)

throw in religious crap so I can make money on the conservative grifter circuit

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 months ago

wrote that traditional gender roles should not be considered stereotypes

What does that even mean? Her entire thesis just doesn't make sense. Who is even calling these stereotypes?

[-] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They are, by definition, stereotypes based on gender :P

Good to know any college student can skirt the usual consequences of half-assing an essay if they're willing to whine about "Muh Freedoms!" (Assuming this goes her way... which it definitely won't)

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 9 months ago

Oh to be in Oklahoma.

Q: How old is the Earth?

A: As old as our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

Q: Why did the Europeans travel west?

A: To share our love of Jesus Christ.

Q: What is the Pythagorean theorem?

A: it's the sum of the squares of any two sides of a right triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining Jesus Christ is our Savior.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Religious studies is comparative. This is theology, and honestly probably C work at best in that.

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