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ICE will not show up if people actually shoot back. They only act like this because they believe they are invincible.
A half dozen or so armed citizens on ICE watch in every neighborhood will have a chilling effect on their bullshit pretty fucking quick.
And if not? If not, then you’re already so far gone that you have no choice but to fight.
Some level of law enforcement is going to have to respond if there's open gunfire in the streets.
What did they do at Uvalde Texas again?
How is this a point? So fucking stupid.
That ONE event doesn't predict any other event.
Probably not. But the national guard and the army will. I recommend looking up the Tulsa massacre as well as all the times we have slaughtered Native Americans by the dozens (and that is just in the US).
Both of which were unarmed when slaughtered
How well has the army done against guerrilla warfare?
Psychotic gun-nut argumennts
Vietnam is on the other side of the planet and were supported by the Soviet Union.
Such a stupid fucking argument.
Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up?
Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot.
If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns.
Are we really fucking doing this again?
Go look up what flock cameras are. And understand there are plenty more where that came from. We live in a surveillance state. So when you and your friends run out of nowhere to scream "wildcats" and shoot up the cops? They'll fairly trivially track you to your home where you, your family, and the people down the street can be massacred at the leisure of the army.
And yes, yes, I know. You and all your friends are going to coordinate to destroy every single camera all at the same time so that nobody can ever track you. And you'll aim your rifle in the sky and take out the satellites overhead. And you'll do all of this without ever having to coordinate with another human being because, if you actually knew how to do that, you wouldn't be speaking like a child and would realize you aren't the only person with these fears and those community organizers are well aware of things.
Or they'll just take a page from the israelis and blow up a random apartment complex because there were black people and The Gays in there. They were probably the shooters, right?
Homie was right, you’re a coward.
super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing."
whats the end goal of your ideology?
That would be a strange argument to have. I don't know what the scarecrow's deal is, but that isn't at all what I am saying.
To summarize: if you bring weapons to a protest, you are not protesting, you are rioting. And if you bring weapons with the intent to kill (basically the only way a firearm is useful to "protect" from another firearm), you are literally a terrorist. That results in a VERY VERY different response.
Is there a time and a place for that response? I am not going to answer that on lemmy. But understand that most people at that protest are there to make their voices heard and don't expect to soak up bullets for john rambo. And if it becomes known that is what happens because someone is always gonna bring a gun? Those protesters stay home
Black Panthers?
Rioters.
Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights?
Terrorists.
Idk man. Seems like a bad summary.
That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them.
We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them.
Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech.