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ICE is as American as Apple Pie
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What's the argument here? Is it that America has always been that? YES, WE KNOW, WE WANT THAT TO CHANGE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE.
You’re both right because there is no We in America.
That is the problem we must solve.
Perhaps there should be no "america" at all. Seems like that option would save the world from a lot of death, and destruction and economic rape.
You're canadian. Perhaps you can see it clearer,
But americans DON'T see this. Their eyes must be pryed open.
The land of refuge for SS division Galizien, the trucker convoy, starlight tours, etc....
As a European I had the wrong idea that Canada was better/different, boy was I wrong.
Canada IS in many ways better and different than america. The problem is that the bar is DISTURBINGLY low.
true, they have more rights for their citizens, etc...
somewhat European, but the right-wing influence is on American level.
When comparing 2 countries you can't just focus on "Politics". Theres much more like levels of education, wealth disparity, like how the judiciary functions to consider too.
There are many realms of life where canada rofl stomps america.
Yes the right wing political influence is bad. It is a present threat and it comes from america. But you have to see that it also doesn't have widespread support. Canadians hate that shit and refuse to tolerate it more so than americans.
And in a period of post-covid economic struggle, canadians succumbed to the brain worms and immigrant blaming that you see world wide, but they ultimately overcame it.
They didn't allow right wing rhetorician who would inevitably make things worse to seize power. In fact he didn't even win his own seat during the last election.
(This is not to say canada is perfect or even great for it's citizens, but again if you are comparing to america it is bar none superior)
I don't.
Now that I totally disagree with.
Of course influence from the US is never good but Canadians have ample racism and fascism all by their own doing.
Not in the least by the Ukrainian influence.
Plenty other politicians from your parties have shown awfully racist behavior.
Also they still support and even arm israeli genociders, help the US and other regimes in war crimes, etc..
Not to mention the eternal racism against natives.
Obviously compared to the US Canada is less bad, still it's despicable and unacceptable in many ways and you portraying it favorably is a lot of wishfull thinking at best, if not delusional.
Maybe you're Canadian and have no frame of reference except the shithole taht is the US.
I can't seem to find a place where we disagree. You seem to want to bloviate on about how canada is complicit in global death and destruction and suffering. These facts are undeniable.
My point is and always has been, that canada is not as bad as the us. Literally not that canada is good, which you seem to be misconstruing it as. So either argue for canada being worse than the us, or lets agree to agree and fuck off.
It cannot change as a nation. Any movement for federal reform is a lost cause. Certain states and municipalities could change, and that is where the future is for some citizens.