this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2026
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
- Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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See? Only one moderator has access to the modlog, but nobody believed me, lol.
Anyway, that clarifies what I've been saying. There you can see the ban, which wasn't months ago. Although, if it's true that "there are errors in Lemmy" and my posts only disappeared a week ago, I can accept that explanation. That said, I didn't accuse you of anything other than the Digital Art ban (the queerphobia and homophobia came from other people, and I'm not even interested in the community where I contacted you; I just went there to contact you and then left). And I don't want to appeal it. I still insist that Lemmy's direct messaging (not the apps I don't want to download) isn't secure, and the message itself says so. I also don't know where to see a message if I receive one because there's no chat icon. I don't know if you think I'm new to social media because I'm not. I don't need a tutorial, but if the platform is missing something essential, it's obvious that anyone would take a shortcut like commenting on other sites. And because of how I had to resort to a "public statement" for someone to listen. Likewise, even if you don't want to be a moderator, which is understandable, while you still are one you should listen to your users when they tell you that a sanction was unfair, because I already clarified, my uploaded content there isn't furry, and the term isn't an opinion, it's a fact. As an artist, although you're not obligated to understand or accept every aspect of art, you also can't base a historical term (like what is and isn't furry) on a personal opinion. Avoiding listening to me was, from my perspective and experiences with people like that, simply washing your hands of an issue that could have easily been resolved with a couple of correct actions. Being responsible isn't about evading the issue, even if you don't want to be contacted through other means. It doesn't matter if they say (referring to both moderators and users of this thread) that I'm "the villain" (also because of the points system, they don't deny my point) because the record only confirms what I said, and I'm also aware of what I did and didn't do, just as I'm willing to accept if I made any mistakes, like blaming you (although only partially, as I said, you could appeal or try to talk even in the comments) or accepting that the fact that my posts disappeared a week after (not months ago) the ban, because platform errors happen (Lemmy is very unstable) and I'm not certain if that's what happened or not.
I doubt you'll even consider lifting my ban; otherwise, you would have done it from the start. But whether you lift it or not, it's clear your colleague (if it's not an automated bot, though you're also a moderator manually) doesn't seem to like my art, and I don't think I'm treated well there. It's up to you whether you lift it, and then I'll decide whether to stay or leave. This whole thing is ridiculous and could have ended with a simple discussion.
The ban was 3 weeks ago so you are correct that it wasn’t months ago but you can also see that your first post was removed 7 months ago. So you had plenty of time to notice that your art wasn’t welcome in the community.
As for why I don’t want to have anything to do with it and won’t remove your ban is because as I said I didn’t want to mod this community any more and that decision was made by me about 1 month prior to you getting banned (as you can see in my screenshots) and I feel like it is not really my decision to unban you since it isn’t my community. I think you just have to accept that some people consider your art as furry art and that they don’t want to have it in their community. I’m sorry.
Basically, this is the "not my problem, even though I still have the moderation button" handbook. You admit I'm right about the timing (three weeks, not months), but then you use circular logic to justify that "your art isn't welcome" based on a seven-month-old deletion that, again, stems from your personal opinion and not a technical definition. And as I said, I accept that if that time has passed and it was Lemmy's mistake to keep showing my drawings even though they were "deleted," I should be allowed to. Furthermore, you're blaming me for something I didn't know, because it's not like I received notifications warning me of a violation. The public log shows the creation date and the reason for deletion, but it doesn't provide any warning to someone new to the platform. I literally had to learn how the moderation log works because of accusations that "I'm a liar," and ironically, I ended up learning about the Modlog, something the average Lemmy user doesn't know and is left with only the public information, which is open to interpretation. Nor should they assume that users who aren't familiar with all the functions, such as viewing their own public log, know everything. What your response implies is this: You admit the timing error, which I appreciate. But there's a "It's not my community" fallacy: You say it's not your responsibility to lift the ban because "you no longer wanted to moderate," but you're still an active moderator enough to respond and review logs. It's a complete contradiction: if you have the power to view the Modlog and respond, you have the power to correct an injustice. By saying "you have to accept that some people consider your art furry," you're admitting that the rules of that community aren't based on facts, but on opinions. Ignoring the very history of art.
But if you don't want to lift the ban—because it's clear you won't, not because you lack the power, but simply because you don't want to—then you're not doing it. If you remove it, good for you. I assume you understood something about this whole circus (which wasn't the goal; it was to get you to lift an unfair ban). Anything logical will do. I'll decide in time whether to post there again or not; currently, I don't feel like it, even without the ban. For me, it's fine. With such poor moderation and prejudiced moderation based on opinions rather than facts, it's not worth being there. It's easier and more honest to admit that you clearly don't want to reinstate me because of one of your opinions, than to keep making excuses. I have no problem admitting a mistake, or saying, "I think your art is garbage, and that's why I won't lift the ban." Because I have no qualms about telling you that you're just avoiding and dragging this out. After all, you'll carry on as if nothing happened, and I'm the one who takes the flak from people who think I'm the problem, even though it rolls off my back once I see their attitudes, their racism, and their aversion to information. It's not for nothing that I prefer to respond with memes in Spanish, because it's impossible to reason with the majority in this thread anymore. I've already had my fill of headaches arguing with dirty, pseudo-expert walls. Now all I can do is read, knowing full well that this will all come to nothing, because you're too lazy (Except for washing your hands of the matter) or you don't want me there, and as I said, I only have one thing left to accept about this ridiculous problem: Not everyone is willing to reason. And I'll just move on with my life.
What do you expect will happen if I unban you? Clearly the other mod doesn't want your art in their community, so if you keep posting there they will just remove it again and ban you again. If you don't post there again, why do you want to get unbanned? So in the end it doesn't really matter what I do.
Regarding the modlog: Everyone can view the modlog it is not restricted to mods. The view from my screenshot where you can view which mod removed what is just from a different frontend called "Photon". I also just took a look at the modlog when I'm not logged in (with the Photon frontend and the default frontend) and it definitely shows the time when a mod action was taken not when the post or comment was created that the mod action was taken on.
I feel like this whole thread is just because of language barriers and your misunderstandings of how things work and you pulled me into this drama for no reason since the mod you should be talking to is @_3D_@lemmy.world or @InfiniteSpaces@lemmy.world and not me.
The "Modlog" fallacy: You yourself admit that you use Photon to see the logs clearly. This confirms my point: Lemmy only shows what's public to the average user, not what you control. Even I understand that simple explanation and see the error, because Photon isn't for public use on the platform without being a moderator. Furthermore, you admit to having the power to unban someone the whole time, and you didn't use it. You probably didn't even mention that you got into trouble because of moderator X, and you didn't tell that moderator about the issue, even though they're active in the community, as I saw a moment ago. And since they're only active in the community where I was banned, I can't contact them through a comment; otherwise, I would.
Confirmation of timing: You just confirmed that the logs show the time of the action (the ban), not the creation of the post. This proves I was right all along: the ban happened weeks ago. My confusion, which I already mentioned in my other comment, stemmed from the mistake of continuing to show my drawings and then disappearing.
The gaslighting of the "misunderstanding"—that everything is a "language misunderstanding"—you continue to underestimate my knowledge, even the most basic and obvious, but you don't take into account the fact that I research what you tell me. The misunderstanding was seeing my drawings untouched less than a week ago; the lack of definition and prejudices you have in art are not a "misunderstanding." You impose it and don't appeal to complaints. It's a condescending way of saying, "It's not that I'm lazy, it's that you don't understand English and you got confused."
"If you're going to come back, you'll get banned; if you're not going to come back, why do you want the unban?"
The reality: It's about cleaning up something I didn't even do. The ban is an unfair stain based on a lack of understanding of an art concept that doesn't apply to mine. Demanding an unban means demanding they acknowledge that the sanction was a technical and artistic error. It's not just a whim; it's about the dignity of defending my art and myself.
Go to https://phtn.app/ and login, everyone can use this.
I don't have any more words to try to explain myself and will retract myself from this conversation because it's draining me mentally to absolutely zero.
If you want acknowledgement that this was an error take it up with @_3D_@lemmy.world who was the mod who banned you, I'm out.
That's a "bureaucratic trap." Sending me to an office you know is locked and whose key you have in your pocket. It's an incredibly cynical move: someone offering a solution ("talk to them") knowing full well that the platform doesn't have a working direct messaging (DM) system, I'm not going to use external apps, and I can't post in a community where I'm banned.
It's the equivalent of telling me, "If you want me to put you in handcuffs, go talk to the guards on the other side of that locked door." You're literally the only one I could contact, and you ignored me, even though you could have told your "colleagues" that someone wants to communicate but can't because of the ban. You're the only one I contacted because you're in communities I can visit. The other moderators are sitting pretty with an unfair warning that I never violated, and it's their ignorance that caused this problem. "This is exhausting," of course it's exhausting, but you yourself keep dragging this out even though you still have the title of moderator. It's incredibly ironic that you and the moderators who have the power to end everything with two clicks, complain of being tired in front of the person who has had to research, debate with 40 people and defend their artistic identity against a wall of ignorance for days. Do you think I didn't get a headache a few days ago arguing with so many incompetent people who think they own a term they misuse and judge my work based on that ignorance? Everything could have been solved in two clicks, but no, they prefer to keep justifying their inability to listen to their users, instead of providing a real solution called listening without causing more problems.
tywele has been a goddamn saint in this thread considering how you’re acting
I added you as a mod to a useless community, go check the modlog on photon now. It's a well known issue that @Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com is unaware of where people who don't mod communities can't see mod names in the mod list on some servers. Since I added you to a community as a mod you should be able to see the list now and the user details on exactly who banned you.
This is confusing and I really don't know why Lemmy devs added this restriction into Lemmy at all but it's an easy one to get around.
I understand your intention and I appreciate it, truly, but it doesn't help the problem because I've known for a while now (as shown in the Modlog screenshots) who's responsible for the ban. And of course, my point is that I can't contact them because they're only active in Digital Art (the community I was banned from). I can't comment on their posts, and I insist, Lemmy doesn't have secure direct messaging. Even if I wanted to contact you to chat, the only way would be to register on those external apps I mentioned, Element.io or Matrix, which I won't do. And if I did, I already know how they'd think of me, considering how they treated me.
If I wanted to talk to you, my message would get lost.
I just wanted to clarify about Lemmy's DM system. When you send a DM to someone (like someone named Mark), the only ones that can see it are the admins (Mark's admin and your admin) and you and Mark. In social media like facebook, twitter, tumblr, reddit, deviant art, etc. it is the same only now it is you, Mark, and the entire moderation teams on those social media platforms that can see the messages. "Secure" (seguro) in the message you are seeing means "end to end encrypted", so that only you and Mark can see the messages. This is only possible in Matrix, Signal, Simplex, and XMPP. I am not aware of any popular social media platforms that have end to end encryption for DMs. Even WhatsApp and Telegram are not really trusted. If facebook had to turn over data on you, that would include all of your messages because facebook can read all of your messages on facebook's server, facebook is not secure. People are telling you to use Lemmy's DM because unless you are saying something sensitive (like your real name/address/bank/etc.) while talking to the mod that banned you, you will be fine, it is like sending a message on any other social media. When I make this comment, everyone in the fediverse can see it, but if I sent you a DM, only me, you, my admin team, and your instance's admin can see it. Your message will not get lost.
I know it can be confusing at first, but you are only banned in one community on one server, there are many other communities you can interact with that will appreciate your art.
Your message would not be lost, it recommends usage of Element.io because Lemmy messages aren't end to end encrypted. That doesn't mean the message will be lost it just means admins can see it. That's not a huge drawback though since since the communications being exchanged with the mod are not sensitive data. Just inquiry about moderaiton.
I sent this to you as a private message to demonstrate that messages go through and do not get lost.
Uh... Why me? I don't know what to say about that.
you were upset you didn't have access to the tool that other user was using to audit and demonstrate what was going on. @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com just gave you access to those tools. i'm pretty sure based on my own experience with photon it would have already worked, but now it will work guaranteed.
no one is trying to hide or obfuscate anything. lemmy just has some unintuitive UI behaviors on the default UI
A thank you would be nice, since I helped you fix the issue about not being able to see the modlog details.