stupidpol

Back then I was still on reddit..

I'd been wondering why Sanders, the progressives, & their issues, were all .. not even mentioned .. among the MSM-left, normally..

There was a reddit post on Joe Rogan interviewing someone from either CNN or NYT..

The person admitted that they'd both "shut down" Sanders, the progressives, their issues, their voices..

So, once I saw that, then it made sense: Biden-institution or NOTHING was the war that CNN+NYT, etc, were waging..

That explained alot..

They aren't doing Journalism, they're doing political-institution-enforcing, while identifying as journalism.

Which is gaslighting, but .. NOBODY's doing true-journalism, nowadays? ( Counterpunch excepted, from the looks of it.. MondoWeiss, either The Canary or The Cradle, I forget which, & maybe a few others.. )

To give you some idea of just how non-journalism our "journalism" is, please watch this sickening little video, showing that the ICE-ing of the US & the IDF-ing of Gaza are the same fundamental thing..

seeing state DarkTetrad murdering people openly .. isn't fun, but it IS accurately-recalibrating-one's-understanding, which is what Journalism has to do, or evil is allowed to win ownership of the world..

https://youtu.be/qhZBVLQK9MU

I wish I'd clued-in earlier, before seeing that video, but it can't be unseen once it's been seen.

We're being spoonfed a dumbed-down version of "reality" while our world is being highjacked from civilization, so that totalitarian feudalism can once-again be unfettered..

Same old highjacking that the robber-barons were doing, same as the monarchies, same as the communist-party-imperialisms that exterminated sooo many of their own people, on & on & on.

DarkTriad/DarkTetrad's the strongest religion on this planet, & it's winning world-dominion, permanently, now..

Social-pressure is powerless to prevent it, & nobody accepts that it's a systems-question: you have to PREVENT politics from obliterating right-civil-function, you don't allow politics to rule, then just hope-real-hard that political-will will be something altruistic & objective, instead of DarkTriad, which politics selects FOR, by default.

The Great Filter, in action.

The systematic-suppressing is just 1 of its many many many means, is all..

I asked an LLM for help in finding specifics/examples, & this is what it said:

The guest you are likely thinking of is Bari Weiss, a former opinion writer and editor for The New York Times, who appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience in early 2019 (Episode #1242).

While the term "shut down" has been used in various contexts regarding the media's treatment of progressives, the specific exchange that went viral involved her discussing how the "intellectual dark web" or "heterodox" thinkers were being treated by mainstream institutions like the Times.

However, there is a more precise match for the sentiment regarding Bernie Sanders and the media "shutting down" the progressive wing:

The Statement by Bari Weiss

During her appearance, Weiss discussed the internal culture of The New York Times. She didn't necessarily claim she personally "shut down" Bernie, but she described a media environment that was hostile to his movement and outsiders in general.

• The Context: She spoke about how mainstream editors and journalists viewed the 2016 and 2020 insurgencies (like Sanders' and Trump's) as "dangerous" or "unacceptable," and how the media attempted to marginalize or "shut down" those voices to maintain the status quo.
• The Viral Moment: This episode became infamous because Rogan pushed back on her use of the term "toady" and her characterization of Tulsi Gabbard, leading to a discussion about how the media "gatekeeps" and shuts out anyone who doesn't fit the establishment mold.

Other Notable Mentions on Rogan

If it wasn't Bari Weiss, you might be recalling a discussion with one of the following guests who made similar claims about CNN or the NYT:

• Matt Taibbi: He has appeared on Rogan multiple times and explicitly detailed how the DNC and corporate media (specifically naming CNN and the NYT) conspired to "shut down" Bernie Sanders' momentum in both 2016 and 2020.
• Krystal Ball & Saagar Enjeti: On their several appearances, they used the phrase "shut down" or "blackout" to describe how CNN and MSNBC treated the progressive wing of the Democratic party to ensure a centrist victory.
• Jimmy Dore: He has frequently used the term "shut down" when describing how the New York Times and other outlets suppressed the progressive movement.

The Quote: If you remember the guest specifically saying "We shut them down," it most likely came from a discussion about the internal mechanics of the NYT Opinion section or CNN's debate coverage, where guests like Andrew Yang or Tulsi Gabbard also told Rogan how they felt the "system" was designed to shut their specific progressive policies out of the conversation.

So, you can see that it wasn't just a feeling/belief/opinion: there was real concerted-action behind it.

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