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[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 44 points 4 months ago

"Waow, they did a bunch of immoral secret experiments, their data must have proved something useful!"

[gives them immunity]

[checks their data]

"People die when you cut off all their limbs and roll them down a hill."

[-] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 12 points 4 months ago

I thought a bunch of our hypothermia knowledge was due to Japan freezing people to death.

I checked the wiki and it wasn't hypothermia, it was frostbite. It does mention freezing people to death, but it doesn't mention how useful/used any of the data was.

I don't know why I thought 731 was responsible for a lot of our understanding of hypothermia.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The data on freezing people actually was a point of contention in the Cold War period! Some scientists thought it should be used, because it was one of the few experiments that was performed with any sort of real rigor, while others said that the ethical concerns of even using data from already-performed unethical experiments of that caliber was beyond the pale.

I don't think the data was ever used, but it was discussed!

[-] vrek@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago

Ok...so I'm going to hell but ... Frostbite being a discussion in the COLD WAR ... Ok I'll see myself out

[-] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 3 points 4 months ago

Ok, that matches my memory, right up until the data being used.

I thought they froze people to death, recorded a tonne, there was an argument about whether to use the data (whether using it just encourages other's to do inhumane stuff to get into the history books, or whatever), and we ultimately did. But we didn't.

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