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this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2026
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I am happy to discuss the literature at any time with any one. Please enumerate your standards of acceptable evidence and I'll be happy to discuss in detail.
Very true! But also not supported by evidence (i.e. only weak observational epidemiology that cannot establish cause and effect). In fact, the general population has responded to these calls - saturated fat has been replaced by seed oils, the standard diet is already 75% plant based, yet outcomes are getting worse and worse and worse (diabetes, cancer, obesity, hypertension, etc). If something isn't working we can either blame people for not doing it hard enough, or adjust the hypothesis.
That said - if you find epidemiology compelling: https://discuss.online/post/40722935 - Animal Based Food Beneficial Epidemiology List
In the carnivore space this would count as a testimonial or case study, which is exactly what we discuss in the community. However, you dismissed this type of data as 'unscientificness'.... either testimonials are evidence, or you have to ignore your friend's experience.
science isn't litigated by consensus - we have a hypothesis we can test, and it works or it doesn't.