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At least hardcore vegans are that way for an understandable reason. Hardcore anti-vegans just do it for the love of the beef (pun absolutely intended).
Well fuckin played
That was an excellent/terrible pun. I tip my Kangol to you.
We are badly misunderstood. But that's okay, it surely seems that someone who only eats meat must be crazy in some way, since it's such a deviation from the norm.
From the community description:
We are focused on health and lifestyle while trying to eat zero carb bioavailable foods.
Zero-carb is an elimination diet. Practitioners generally do it because they've had health problems that were resolved by the removal of various problematic foods. If you're curious, there are many testimonials here: https://www.youtube.com/@zerocarb
I was pre-diabetic, hypertensive, and had fatty liver.
(By the way, you can eat all meat on zero-carb, as long as it doesn't cause you any problems, and not just beef. It's just that ruminant meat appears to be the most optimal. It's also good to have some fish.)
I'm not sure how that connects to my comment about anti-vegans (people who hate on vegans).
Sorry, I misread your comment.
Its okay, it happens to the best of us.
FWIW zero carb carnivores are not 'vegan' vegans - we don't mind people being healthy on other diets - in fact we are happy to see their data! By and large the community is very outcome based, and will pivot in a instant if something works better.
Zero carb is fat based! Not meat based. For the average person they don't add any extra protein in, they just swap out carbohydrates for fat.
A zero carb carnivore eats the same amount of meat as 98% of the world.
A zero carb carnivore eats the same amount of meat as 98% of the world.
These kinds of claims are the reason why I can't take carnivores seriously.
You eat about 400g of beef a day. (some carnivores eat twice that or more. I'm making a conservative estimate) Not to mention some of the "fat" you eat is tallow. which is basically rendered from meat like beef or pork.
That's about 150kg of meat per year.
Most humans are in China and India. Chinese eat about 60kg of meat per year and India is 6 kg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption
The Standard Western diet is about 15% of energy from animal protein, going carnivore does not increase that.
These kinds of claims are the reason why I can’t take carnivores seriously. - You eat about 400g of beef a day.
Which is roughly 100g of protein (400 calories), and 65g of fat (600 calories), inline with the standard western diet daily protein recommendations.
My base metabolic rate is about 3500 calories a day (yes, i've measured it). So 11% of my daily energy intake is coming from protein, and 89% is coming from fat. Carnivore is about eating more fat.
Not to mention some of the “fat” you eat is tallow. which is basically rendered from meat like beef or pork.
That doesn't change anything, unless you classify fat as meat? I don't. Fat is fat. Meat is protein.
As an example butter isn't a type of meat.
Your original claim is about the world.
Now you are talking about western diet which is only a small part of the world.
A zero carb carnivore eats the same amount of meat as 98% of the world.
Your original claim is about the world.
Sure, that is a fair point. As you have just pointed out there are populations that are not meeting their minimal protein targets for health.
As far as carnivore goes - it doesn't change the daily protein target.
Seems like they have a real beef with you. You really backed them into a carne.
A smoking burn! Really raking them over the coals.
Yeah, the unscientificness annoys me the most. Doctors have been practically pleading for people to eat more veggies for the past few decades.
Granted, not everyone's the same. I know a guy who's allergic or intolerant to so many things that a largely meat-based diet is his only real option. Having a support group for such cases is cool.
Instead, a lot of the posts in that sub talk about pseudo-scientific data, completely ignoring that it is far away from scientific consensus.
Yeah, the unscientificness annoys me the most.
I am happy to discuss the literature at any time with any one. Please enumerate your standards of acceptable evidence and I'll be happy to discuss in detail.
Doctors have been practically pleading for people to eat more veggies for the past few decades.
Very true! But also not supported by evidence (i.e. only weak observational epidemiology that cannot establish cause and effect). In fact, the general population has responded to these calls - saturated fat has been replaced by seed oils, the standard diet is already 75% plant based, yet outcomes are getting worse and worse and worse (diabetes, cancer, obesity, hypertension, etc). If something isn't working we can either blame people for not doing it hard enough, or adjust the hypothesis.
That said - if you find epidemiology compelling: https://discuss.online/post/40722935 - Animal Based Food Beneficial Epidemiology List
Granted, not everyone’s the same. I know a guy who’s allergic or intolerant to so many things that a largely meat-based diet is his only real option. Having a support group for such cases is cool.
In the carnivore space this would count as a testimonial or case study, which is exactly what we discuss in the community. However, you dismissed this type of data as 'unscientificness'.... either testimonials are evidence, or you have to ignore your friend's experience.
a lot of the posts in that sub talk about pseudo-scientific data, completely ignoring that it is far away from scientific consensus.
science isn't litigated by consensus - we have a hypothesis we can test, and it works or it doesn't.
I wonder how many health problems a meat diet will cause? Guess they’ve never heard of gout.
Gout is terrible. It's not just for meat diets though. Lots of foods contain the things that trigger it. Hydration is the best way to fend it off.
You were removed from the community 8 months ago - https://discuss.online/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2971197
At the time the automation identified your user behavior as inorganic.
but mistakes can happen, perhaps the script was in error. would you like to be added back into the community?
Here is the guiding moderation philosophy of that community: https://hackertalks.com/post/13655318
No thanks. I just blocked it so it doesn't show up when I scroll all
Inorganic The fuck? They calling me a bot? Lol
Or you're going over specifically to troll
They sought me out by being in all. I interact with whatever catches my eye. Sometimes I'm bad about noticing what com it is. I can get a little opinionated, especially if I think I know what I'm talking about. I might talk a little shit from time to time but I don't troll, at least not intentionally.
I wonder how many health problems a meat diet will cause? Guess they’ve never heard of gout.
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