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[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They do. There's a power-tripping mod for most of the big trans communities that loves to ban people for silly ideological reasons.

Look at this ridiculous shit. What did I do to deserve this? Did I go onto a trans community and start throwing around slurs? No! I would never do that. I'm trans myself. I'm active and help run actual trans support groups in the real world. No, I got mass banned for "gatekeeping" for completely innocuous posts like this:

Or another one here:

The person that moderates these communities is completely out of touch. If any discussion organically arises about the nature of pronouns or the bounds of who counts as trans arise, this out of control mod mass bans anyone that disagrees with her ideology.

Note, I didn't go around harassing people who were using neo-pronouns. (Pronouns other than she/he/they.) It was simply an open discussion that organically developed. I personally find some neo-pronouns pretty ridiculous. Often they don't even meet the definition of a pronoun. But I wasn't forcing that belief on anyone or shoe-horning it in random discussions. I wasn't even addressing anyone who use them. But I went against the party line, so it was time for a purge. These comments had very high upvote/downvote ratios, with greater than 90% of people upvoting rather than downvoting. So her views are clearly extreme even within the Lemmy trans community.

And worst, this power-tripping woman banned me from a bunch of other communities, all justified by the same childish "gatekeeping" bullshit. What's worse is that it's so sudden. Like, it's not like they have a list of topics that are banned from discussion. The mods will allow discussions of these topics and then ban people who give answers they don't like. If your answer to "what does it mean to be trans" is anything short of "it's completely meaningless and has literally no real definition anymore," then you'll be banned for "gatekeeping."

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago

Not commenting on the validity of your ban or not, but if you get instance banned on Lemmy - the system will automatically directly ban you from all communities on that instance that you have previously commented on. So it looks like a mass community ban.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Your points make perfect sense, arbitrarily conjured pronouns serve no purpose. I also don't think anyone should be harassed for deciding to describe themselves like this, if it bothers you, you can just ignore them.

They do make me irrationally angry though. The roleplay they put everyone through... it's like, I already have to jump through hoops for social interactions and you want me to accept your pronouns are 'of the air'?

Nope, just like the dragon rider or wyvern rider or whatever the fuck — I refuse. Easy block. Like I usually don't even have anything against what they try to say (if the topic isn't about their roleplay), I just simply can't interact with the roleplay.

Not to mention I've got the sneaking suspicion that many people only do it for attention and cast doubt on anyone who tries to say otherwise with stuff like 'you're gatekeeping' 'you're a bigot' 'you're xyz'. Thought terminating clichés and whatnot.

[-] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

Was thinking of that once as well, though nobody would take a straight white man on this topic seriously. Interesting to see I am not alone.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today -1 points 2 months ago

As much as I think some people abuse neopronouns, that sounds like gatekeeping to me. Someone's identity shouldn't depend on a larger democratic agreement.

I know a kid, a friend of my neice, who identifies as bunny/bun. Bun's friends, family and teachers respect Bunny's pronouns. As far as I know, Bun is just trying to make sense of bunself and the world, and if this helps, it's no problem for me. In fact, we all socially agreed to do it.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That's not a pronoun though, that's a name. No one can know what social role this person is aiming for or how they want to be treated, as rabbits do not exist as free people in human society.

"I identify as a rabbit, treat me like a rabbit."

"What, do you want me to lock you in a cage and raise you as a pet or source of meat and fur?"

If a child wants to play make believe, and the adults around them want to humor them, that's fine. But we're talking about adults in the real world here.

Again, the only way anyone knows how to treat this person is by learning their very specific "pronoun." And if a word cannot form as a useful shorthand, it by definition isn't a pronoun. This person doesn't have "bun" as their pronoun. That's just their nickname.

And what's really odd in these conversations is that this has fuck all to do with trans people. Going by a quirky nickname you just made up doesn't make you trans or anything other than a person with a quirky nickname.

If you have to explain it, it's not a pronoun. If it has nothing to do with gender, it's certainly not a pronoun. And gender isn't just vibes. It has to have some actual relation to human sexuality and gender roles. Do you think your gender is a cat? I'm sorry, but you're real gender is apparently clown. The purpose of pronouns is traditionally to indicate male and female. And pronouns should stick to that axis, though nonbinary folks fit neatly into that.

To me, a pronoun is something that:

  1. Is a useful and practical shorthand. (A pronoun is not a nickname.)
  2. Maps to a real gender that has some relationship to male, female, man, woman. (Could be various forms of nonbinary that say you identify between male and female, as neither male nor female, etc. But it has to actually have some connection to male/female.)

I just fundamentally reject the idea that the definitions of "gender" and "pronouns" are so meaningless that you're basically using the word "gender" interchangeably with the word "vibe." We have so many words to describe "bunself" without muddying the word pronoun. You could just say some has a rabbit-like personality or character. There's no need for cis people to appropriate trans terminology for things that have nothing to do with trans issues or the gender spectrum.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bunny doesn't identify as a rabbit. Bun is non-binary and the pronouns are bun/bunny. Not a name. We use it like they/them and ze/zem. And not a child, a teenager.

Super weird arguing specific language rules in english, of all things. Multiple languages recognize more than three gendered classes. Most importantly, language changes to fit our needs, no one should change how they express themselves or identify to fit a language model.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Bunny doesn’t identify as a rabbit. Bun is non-binary and the pronouns are bun/bunny. Not a name. We use it like they/them and ze/zem. And not a child, a teenager

This is nonsense. And, as I said, a child.

Y'all got issues beyond being trans. And whatever it is, it has nothing to do with trans people or our struggles. I leave you to your demons.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago

And you clearly have isues with gatekeeping what pronouns someone is allowed to use, according to your arbitrary rules. It has everything to do with trans people and our struggles when people dictate how others are allowed to identify.

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