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A couple hours before I was on the edge of getting a Fairphone 5 but I read the specifications and didn't see 3.5 mm audio jack anywhere. So I thought to myself...why? The community has been requesting this for a couple years ago now so why not. They're already making money on the phone, they're really pushing for people to get their wireless headphones? Just add the headphone jack, shouldn't be too hard.

They said they're treating their workers fairly, sourcing from ethical sources, renewable claims, repairability claims, and supporting foss projects (they donated a fp4 to CalyxOS to support development). All of these are amazing, so adding a little headphone jack shouldn't be that hard in the grand scheme of all this.

*Add the headphone jack and I'll be happy to support and get a fp5.

https://calyxos.org/news/2022/02/25/device-support/

https://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone-5

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

the headphone jack community is like the vegans of smartphones

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the sense that vegans want vegan food available in vegan stores? Cause that's the equivalent of wanting a headphone jack in a phone from a company that sells their products on all these promises.

[–] Vlhacs@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll admit, it came off a bit whiny and Bluetooth hardware is admittedly very accessible these days, but Bluetooth does definitely add additional unnecessary hardware and for a no compromise company like fairphone, it does seem strange they decided to leave out the headphone jack

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

vegetarian and headphone jack enthisiast here. can confirm.

[–] Squiddles@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I used to be omniaural too, so I get where you're coming from, but have you seen the whistleblower videos from the airpod factory? Sick.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a "nice to have", but I'd never rule out buying a phone for it.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Not like people really can these days. Options get even narrower if people start putting in settings they need like good software support and unlockable bootloader. Despite the many options there isn't really a phone that doesn't have some sort of concession to it despite the increasing price points.

[–] Stochastic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My headphones (wired) cost more than a smartphone and I expect my handheld device to be compatible with them. I'll rule out buying models based on this feature.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's strange, my headphones cost about 300€ and there is no way a smartphone headphone jack can even drive them at a sufficient volume due to their higher impedance.

I would imagine that gets worse on more expensive ones?

[–] Stochastic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It very much depends on the pair of headphones and on the hardware of the phone.

My LG phone is a beast. Sure, it's not quite the same audio power as a headphone amp would give, but the audio quality and convenience is fantastic.

[–] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Meze planars cost a couple grand and IIRC they can run without an amp.

[–] ghandi9@lemmy.meg.li -1 points 1 year ago

The only thing they have in common with vegans is that they are a vocal minority with a strong opinion, and those can of course be annyoing if you aren't part of the group.

They are closer to reactionaries and conservatives who want hang on to an ancient standard/tradition mostly just because they are used to it and because it is tradition..

You can get wired USB earplugs, you can get cheap adapters for your old earplugs, so it's not as if people are forced to use wireless.

This is just an ancient technology being replaced with a new technology, and instead of embracing the new tech and demanding improvements or solutions to problems with the new tech, some people just instinctly demand a return to the past without compromise.