Europe
Europe community on dbzer0. Intended to be a place to discuss European news, politics, or just general topics from a European perspective. Since this is on dbzer0 expect the community to lean more leftist-anarchist but a wide range of views are accepted here (within reason).
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Any forms of Homophobia, Transphobia, Queerphobia, Racism, or Ableism will be met with swift and harsh action and will not be tolerated here whatsoever. Bigots will be banned immediately on-sight. This includes apologia of it.
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Listen, we keep excusing the people, its our fault. As Americans its our fault we have Trump. As Europeans, its their fault they have leaders that bend to the US and Israel's wants and needs. The people need to be taught responsibility again. We need to be taught to overthrow shitbags that make the world a worse place. Letting genociders roam free is making the world a worse place.
Australia is in line with this as well. The party that is supposed to be progressive, despite some of its members standing up (looking at you with respect Ed Husic) are bending to the will of interests against the public’s wishes. There’s targeting of disabled people which is leading them to want to put it last in preferences because they have nothing at all to lose, and they will.
It’s the same thing; we need to as a nation, vote better next time but there is no will by the majority to take it further left in a historically conservative voting nation whose people often choose the stick over the carrot as a social outlook.
The closest thing we have to a progressive party is the Greens and they don’t support Zionism.
Unless you're in Germany where the 2023 co-head of the green party and foreign minister said "These days we're all Israelis"
At least their youth organisation is calling out the genocide, obviously not without being accused of antisemitism
Germany is a Nazi country so it’s to be expected that even their Greens are Nazis. Only place I’ve ever seen Zionist “leftists”.
Yeah pretty much been voting Green for many years now. It’s crazy; so many people saying we have no decent alternatives yet the Greens have the policy platform pretty much everyone who makes these complaints are chasing.
My seat is firmly conservative so my strategy is to focus on the Senate with the view of it holding the government to account in a progressive fashion as much as they can. What those Green senators do in that regard is precisely why I vote them in.
Fully agree. I'm in Queensland (Australia's Florida) and it never ceases to amaze me how the majority of people in this state will enthusiastically vote against their own best interest, complain that things have gone to shit, blame any and all progressive/green parties and then do it all again.
Yeah it’s a big concern. Im in Queensland as well.
The worry for us is we have no Senate in our state government and you can already see how much damage Crisafulli is doing with that. Hanson would fuck this state forever and this is where she’s from.
Unreal ay? How long did these southern states put shit on us, yet they’re now idolising the worst of Queenslanders in Hanson and Joyce, owned by the biggest grub of a slob the country has in a WA mining magnate who in turn is owned by an American pedophile who shits himself in public and falls asleep.
The fuck happened to us? Seriously, Hoges comment calling Hanson a pelican was the biggest punch anyone’s been able to lay on the rotten orange cunt of a thing.
Edited: added ‘an American’
Which party is targeting disabled people, and why?
Labor with the NDIS amendments. Some of it is nothing short of cruelty.
Many disabled people feel they have nothing to lose…take away the social and community participation budget, that’s a big aspect of enjoyable life gone for them. They’re clear; they’ll put Labor last and it doesn’t matter what’s said to them in regards to the conservatives being worse…they have to deal with what’s happening in front of them that’s real, not what may or may not under future incompetent conservative governments.
Some people were better off with NDIS plans under the conservatives. Whatever peoples take from that might be (and it’s generally misinformed by my experience, being a plan manager and carer) that’s a fact for many, and it’s enough for people with nothing to lose to put Labor last, on what’s happening in front of them.
Go take a look around the discussion with disability advocates and you’ll see what’s going on. There’s not a lot of love for Labor among the unemployed and their advocacy either. Remember, as I said these are people with not a lot to lose so they’ll vote based on how they’re being treated.
That doesn’t reflect how I may or may not vote either, just how it is.