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So puzzled why it even needs defending in a country that is constantly screaming about free speech and rights, it is your data and no one has the right to it but you
The US thinks it's a lot of things it isn't, and really has never been. A democracy for example.
Yes unfortunately with each passing year another piece of the facade that holds this noodle house together falls and reveals it's wobbly spineless innards
All societies are flimsy
Held up one generation at a time by the educational and cultural matrix in which the new generation form their reality
Mmm I was just talking about this, when people are so wrapped up in their own lives and don't care about each other or look out for each other, what's the point any more, society is gone. It's like people don't see it? I know it's not that bad all over but it's not a good trend and it doesn't seem to be fading
You do realize that as recently as the 1800's the average household had at least one member infected with tapeworm at any given time?
Science and technology have brought such riches
Fuck MAGA, religion, and Trump-Orban
Yeah, the good ol' days. Now we have to simulate having a tapeworm with Ozempic.
We can have advanced medicine without all this bullshit surveillance machinery technology, it is possible, people just have to set aside their greed but they are not willing to
I have no idea how my lament of the lack of socialism inspired your technology rant
Building it on lies does not make it sturdier.
3ish generations at a time, but ok
More accurate yes
Also we are about 3 generations from the folks who made the moon landing happen
Im not puzzled, theyre hypocrites. They want for themselves but not for others. Its the entire core of their beliefs.
Came here to say this. It's like taking a note out of your own pocket and ripping it up. What's actually the criminal offence?
The police just want to go on a fishing expedition on your data. Just try kicking in the doors of their house to do the same thing.
That's happening.
It's definitely an unlawful search though right? I mean what crime are they looking for they can't just say they have some suspicion in order to dig through someone's personal life, that's unacceptable
Unlawful, unfortunately no. Immoral, certainly
Unfortunately in the US, it is legal for border searches.
Thank our corrupt supreme Court
What a shame those bastards got to play dirty and get those seats and start all this garbage and they just let it happen, Citizen's United totally steamrolls all of representational democracy
No crossing at a boarder you have no rights. And if you're a non citizen you have even less rights.
Because there is a specific exemption for border officials in the 4th Amendment. Until he was allowed to proceed and enter the county, CBP had the full legal authority to search everything on his person and in his possession.
Edit: y'all some have to like it for it to be true.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-4/border-searches
It's a well-known exemption.
https://www.brownulr.org/blogposts/the-border-search-exception-to-the-fourth-amendment
Well-studied
https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/customs-immigration-and-rights
Legal arguments against the exemption including phone data are tenuous at best.
https://harvardlawreview.org/print/vol-132/the-border-search-muddle/
Y'all her your heads outta your collective butts and let's change the shit law.
No, no they do not.
Constitution still applies at border crossings and without a warrant your phone isn't searchable
I'd love to hear what you plan on telling Cornell Law School about how wrong they are.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-4/border-searches
Sure, but I see it as "is the data on your phone a possession?"
Hypothetically, I could have my phone geofenced so that when I was within a certain distage of a border, it would wipe part or all of my data, and then automatically restore my data when I get a certain distance from the border. Is it illegal to wipe my data? Definitely not. Can I be compelled to download data to my phone? Definitely not. Can I be prosecuted for things on my phone that I was compelled to download to my phone? Also definitely not.
So border patrol can search the phone without a warrant, but can they compell you to give up your cloud account passwords and 2FAs? What about your Bank account credentials? What if you genuinely can't remember them in that instance?
Can they even prove that the phone was wiped in response to CBP trying to access it with a duress password? Is it illegal now to bring a wiped phone over the border?
So many questions!
Did you even read the article in the last link? This is well-worn territory.
Questions? Have you read anything about this case? The guy told the officer what happened. Told him! Hadn't even been Mirandized FFS! And volunteers that the officer entered the code to wipe the phone.
It's SO boneheaded.
Because it was an active search and he destroyed the "evidence". Well be interesting how this plays out I can see both sides.
It was not an an active search. The phone was seized illegally.
A warrant is required to search personal belongings. This was a patdown, no different from a security guard checking your ID.
It's fully legal to have a wipe set on your device
Its spelled 'freeze peach' and its delicious. Common misconception.