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I can back this up my parents owned bars and restaurants and the insurance companies and local police would constantly push that we had scanners.
We knew as soon as it got around that we were scanning ID our bars would tank. The irony was the people that push for them would be the first customers we would lose. We were known as a cop friendly bar, and all the local government people would frequent too. No way they would want to be seen as a regular in a database.
We also had no camera's in the bar/restaurant area for the same reason. My old man was big on privacy...
It's very much people wanting to have their cake and eat it to. People want trouble makers to see justice, but we also don't want to live in a society ruled by violence.
What most Gen-Z and younger folk don't know is that before cameras were everywhere, trouble makers were taught violently who would not tolerate their trouble makery.
But now trouble makers only answer to the cameras that can prove them guilty in a court of law. Hence why alcohol venues are logging ID's. Because insurance companies are tired of paying out lawsuits, and government regulators are tired of alcohol venues getting people drunk and causing problems.
I agree 100% with this statement. The person doesn't necessarily need to be beat up but there aren't any real social consequences to being an asshole anymore. No one doing anti-social but not actually illegal things are dealt with.
Lets not forget some of them are creeps touching women on the dance floor. Those are the fucking worst cuz they always play the victim card when women retaliate. From a venue perspective you have to do something about them. Cuz if women don't feel safe at your venue you are 100% going out of business.
I worked at a venue where multiple bars nearby shared their patronscan ban list cuz we were having problem guys leaving one bar and starting problems in the next one. But not enough to get them arrested.
You are complete on point. When I was a kid (GenX) justice was metered out with fists if you got way out of line at the bar. In a way I prefer the old system because, and like you say now you are only accountable to the camera.
Beatings heal and it doesn't follow you like a video of you showing your ass at the bar/where ever.
But you can't fight the insurance companies, if they want cameras/scanners or they are going to double your rates you know whats going to happen. The issue I have with cameras is its a double edge sword. It can bite you as much as it can save you.
I have mixed feelings. As someone mentored by a 40 year industry veteran I know that bouncers also crossed the line regularly. I wish I could prescribe a middle ground but I don't how one would define that.
I get that, its a tight rope.
Speaking over stepping I've seen our regular cops over step and tune someone right up in the parking lot then walk away w/ no issues as the other party gets cuffed and stuffed. Same w/ townies, they rarely get arrested if the other party isn't from around here...
I seen it both ways. Seen RCMP tune up a legit scumbag and catch charges cuz it was in public. Also seen multiple RCMP absolutely brutalize innocent people.
I have spent over half my career in the work force dealing with violence professionally. I don't wanna "see action" anymore. I just wanna get paid and go home. Which is part of the problem. The people with good heads on their shoulders get burnt out.