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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

The equation changes a lot when you start altering the assumptions.

Who says the robots have to have batteries? Human workers drag power cables all over construction sites. Why can't a robot be built that's smart enough to manage its own power cord? Power cord management seems simple compared to doing meaningful construction work.

The wear and tear is a legitimate concern, but fixed industrial robots have been operating for many decades. The wear issues are obviously solvable in the right context.

Keep in mind, prosthetics may not be the perfect analogy. We imagine these things as humanoid, but they need not be. You might have a drywall hanging robot that has suction cups to lift up panels and a screw gun to affix them. They might not even have legs. A welding robot could just be a welding tool on the end of a long boom arm.

There's really no need to even make general purpose robots. It's not like individual humans practice every trade. You could have trade-specific robots. A drywall robot, a plumber robot, an electrician bot, etc. Each equipped only with those tools needed to complete just that trade. And instead of mechanical hands, they could simply be mounted.

I would agree that humanoid battery powered robots are not likely to result in mass employment in construction any time soon. But if you start relaxing those constraints, the possibility for mass worker displacement exists. A robotic construction site need not visibly resemble a human one.

Who says the robots have to have batteries?

The market. How many cable powered mobile bipedal robots have you seen?

Human workers drag power cables all over construction sites.

No they don't? Have you ever been on a construction site? They have power cables, but they aren't attached to them as they constantly move across a construction site. They are used for a specific job then rolled up and taken to the next job. Dozens of people dragging their own powered chords across a building site would not only be dangerous, but a huge pain in the ass.

but fixed industrial robots have been operating for many decades. The wear issues are obviously solvable in the right context.

As I said in my original statement, laypeople such as yourself tend to underestimate the amount of force a moving object creates. Just engaging in something like jogging can have a ground force reaction of 3x your body weight, something like a small jump can exert up to 7x your body weight. That is with more pliable triplaner joints covered in soft tissues that help reduce that ground reaction by absorbing some of the force with higher degrees of range of motion. Something more rigid like a robotic foot/ankle or prosthetics actually experience much higher degrees of ground reaction force.

They might not even have legs. A welding robot could just be a welding tool on the end of a long boom arm.

The entirety of my argument was around humanoid robots....... That's why I said it would make more sense for a robot on a flat factory floor to have wheels or tracks. I'm not arguing against the idea of robots in general, just bipedal humanoid ones.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 points 15 hours ago

Human workers drag power cables all over construction sites. Why can’t a robot be built that’s smart enough to manage its own power cord? Power cord management seems simple compared to doing meaningful construction work.

I'm sure it seems simple from your desk

One thing: do you think that those power cables are permanently connected to the workers? Are you thinking about workers using extension cords for tools or the ones laying cable for the building, because it sure as fuck isn't simple to do either, which is why battery and petrol powered tools exist, and why the cableways are planned well in advance.

The wear and tear is a legitimate concern, but fixed industrial robots have been operating for many decades.

Only with maintenance and servicing by a human trained to see every potential flaw and monitor the equipment long term. Nothing, not even the most expensive equipment you can imagine, is without the need for regular maintenance.

You could have trade-specific robots. A drywall robot, a plumber robot, an electrician bot, etc. Each equipped only with those tools needed to complete just that trade. And instead of mechanical hands, they could simply be mounted.

Do you think that a construction site works the same way as a factory building cars? Just one long conveyors that shits out a fully built house? Workers move up, down and across the building dozens of times a day in a job doing multiple different jobs within their field, problem solving on the fly.