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[Discussion] Spider-Man: Brand New Day (lemmy.world)
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Spoilers for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, obviously.

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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Phenomenal.

First, yes, Sadie Sink is playing Jean Grey. Ok, onto film spoilers.

My favorite scene has to be the "unforgivable" MJ fake out. I didn't believe it, but I wanted to believe it. Jean Grey called it, true loves kiss breaks the spell. Fucking liar. Absolutely crushed. It also perfectly shows us how great Peter is. He can forgive Jean for something unforgivable and be her friend.

Also a highlight to the cinematography, especially during the fight with The Hand. Spider-Man flips, the camera flips. Swordfighting fun. Just solid.

And of the course the post credits. We have a Spider-Man in New York. We have a Spider-Man in space. This film showed us BOTH Spider-Men! Next up must be "The Punisher goes to Space!"

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

The webslinging was amazing. The camera work, to the way he pumps his arm at the end of a swing for more height.

And I loved seeing Yelena show up. And the relationship of Frank and Peter. And the way MJ convinced Frank to help Peter. And the way they used May.

Honestly, the character writing for this was just outstanding. The people and relationships all felt very real, and you could see the impact of what they've been through.

[–] GreyCat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm not sure how to describe this, but I didn't like Jean Grey and found her portrayal a unbelievable and inconsistent.

Why would what aunt May said reach her knowing what she did to people and especially with her reaction to Frank's memories of his family being murdered in front of him just being a little funny quip.

Especially hated how vague on purpose they made hers and Peter's dialogue just to create fake tension.
Not counting the fact that Pete might have without too much difficulty figured out that something was going on, all she had to do was mention her sister and her main antagonist would have helped her save her.

She was just very cruel and making sociopathic comments all the way through I just can't see what May said touching her in any way.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

May was being the mother that she didn't have.

Jean and her sister talk about their mother abandoning them once they got their powers. Jean even tries to rationalize it as what else could her mother do.

Jean and Peter are also both living lives of isolation. Jean only had her sister so it doesn't take much for her to turn antagonistic. Peter had a stronger foundation, but even he starts to slip, he throws Scorpion into a police car and nearly kills the officer inside.

Peter is able to find his way back because he finally reaches out and interacts with MJ and Ned. He has a friend. That's all Jean needed. Jean needed someone, she needed a friend.

When Jean sees Peter's memory she sees the kindness she's been missing. She tries to dismiss it as just a memory, but Peter says he'll be her friend. Jean wants to be a good person, but if everyone treats you as a monster, you act like a monster.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

To add onto Mimicjar. Jean was inside Peter and I assume she got to feel like what it means to be loved by a mother and be someone with powers. Peter did not let himself get consumed even though everything pointed to him doing so. Frank was an example of what Peter could turn into, a cautionary tale. She was in both of their heads and chose Peter’s path.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She TOOK Frank's mind. Peter let her in... on his terms. Her personally curated the experience for her to make the things that mattered to him harder to skim.

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well maybe MJ isn't Peter's true love - I mean a bros handshake sure made Ned remember him lol.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean he's the CEO of Sex, Peter's making the right choice.

But actually I think Ned was just quick to connect some dots and I don't think he suddenly remembered Peter Parker. I think, like MJ, he knew he was missing something and he channeled that into finding Spider-Man.

Ned and Peter were quick to bond when hanging out with MJ. As Spider-Man leaves MJ tells Peter to be safe, causing Ned to ask if Spider-Man's name is Peter. Later when Peter introduced himself, as Peter, there is a pause from Ned. Flower guy? Didn't he have a different name? Wait Spider-Man's name is Peter? And then, just like riding a bike they do their special handshake.

Like MJ, Ned doesn't really know Peter Parker again, but Peter fits in whatever the emptiness the spell left behind.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I think Ned was Peter's best friend a lot more than MJ was his girlfriend. Not even just talking about how long they knew him either; I think it hurt Peter more to not have Ned than to not have MJ.

Romance is nice but friendship is often underrated. I think you can function a lot longer without romance than you can without friendship.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love the fact that the kiss did not break the spell. I was about to be so disappointed with such cheesy predictable writing and then they flip it, and I was relieved, but also enjoyed the great writing behind it.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was perfect. I hope they don't ever break/undo the spell, but if they do it at this point I won't be disappointed since this was done so perfectly.

It was one of those great "theater scenes" where everyone is excited and trying to figure it out and then... crushed.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

In the comics he can break the spell by just telling people that knew him before who he is. They just suddenly remember everything. I always thought that was a cheap way to retcon who knows his identity. I like this better.

Also, in the comics, Hulk remembers who Spidey is because he wasn’t present when the spell was cast, or something like that, it’s been a while. I think they alluded to that when Hulk stopped beating on Peter when he lost the mask.