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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Jail everyone that gave that order all the way up the chain to the POTUS

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Due to a combination of low visibility **and an air-traffic control that was stretched far beyond capacity **

well look at that, DOGE caused 2/3rds of the problem. Get ol musky up there too.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not DOGE. ATC has been understaffed since Reagan broke the union and fired them all.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You'd think that they'd recover in the intervening (looks at calendar) 40ish years since Regan, if there weren't other systemic problems.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was not shot down or anything like that. It was jamming from the base, none of the plane's navigational instruments were working and the pilot was unable to tell there was a mountain in his path.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Read the original Wired article. All of the instruments were working before the crash. But the pilot chose not to use them, instead flying a visual approach at an airport they weren't familiar with, at night, with not much experience in this type of flying. That's an all-around terrible idea. GPS jamming didn't kill them, the pilot's complacency did.

[–] DucksInARow@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a selective and misleading interpretation of the Wired article.

A more accurate summary would be that in the face of unreliable instruments and an overworked ATC, the pilots made a rational decision that nonetheless resulted in their deaths. While multiple factors aligned to cause the accident, the inciting event and most significant factor was military GPS interference.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, the pilots fucked up seven ways to Sunday and didn't do their job, full stop.

I say this as someone with aviators in my family - we were shocked at how much these pilots fucked up.

[–] l3mming@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, I don't know about you lot, but I'm listening to this guy. He has aviators in his family!

[–] DucksInARow@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Shallowest possible ethos. "Well, I didn't actually read the book, but my friend did".

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah. It's going to be like two years before the final FAA report, but I'd be surprised if they assigned any significant blame to the GPS jamming.

How would that happen, why would anyone involved in the jailing process comply?