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[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean if they wanted to lose their asses, sure.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is not complicated. Sell open hardware at a loss, buyer doesn't use it to buy games, money is never recuperated. Valve loses their asses.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s steam, they hold an effective monopoly on PC game sales.

I’d understand this argument with the steam machine as businesses could buy them cheap for non-gaming use but there really is not much of a non-gaming market for VR hardware.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they hold an effective monopoly on PC game sales

Did I say Steam games? I said games.

there really is not much of a non-gaming market for VR hardware

Uhhhh yes? There's an enormous commercial market. One that will grow larger with this headset being released.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If that’s the case the commercial market should be buying up PSVRs and Quest 3s in mass.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Both of those are locked down platforms. For that reason. That's the whole point.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can stream PC software to a quest 3, you can sideload apps, and PSVR has a PC adapter.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just because you can stream content from a PC doesn't make it an open platform. Most applications require being able to be run unrestricted on the local device.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The unrestricted access I'm referring to is at the OS level. Lots of developers need that.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah and Meta used to sell enterprise editions of the Quest 3 that would fit these needs.

Something they stopped because the market doesn’t exist.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I literally gave away my quest 3 headset because of facebook's walled garden ecosystem, ads, and telemetry. If I didn't know someone that was about to buy one I'd have recycled it.

If Valve did the same shit with the Steam Frame I wouldn't even accept one as a gift. I will absolutely pay a premium for hardware I actually own.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

They don’t need to put ads in it to subsidize the cost, they literally run the largest PC gaming storefront.