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[–] StrawberryPigtails@discuss.tchncs.de 107 points 1 week ago (6 children)

About the only upside to this that I can think of is that maybe, just maybe, programmers will start being more frugal with their memory usage. Everything else just sucks.

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah. They'll use AI to code everything, and now you need more RAM to continue...

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People have to buy the games… if the machine doesn’t support it, nobody to buy it.

[–] kwozyman@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

Why not rent and stream the games for only $99.99 per month. Subscribe now!

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Streaming only replaces storage, you actually need more RAM than running it from fixed memory.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nah, you just need to show it like a video basically.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That has nothing to do with ram consumption.

FYI IIRC gta 5 had 13 (or 14?) frames of latency when it came out (controller => gfx). Still a wild success.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

Was really just talking about whole remote vs local gaming thing. Latency does depend on the type of game. Some it matters less than others.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 6 days ago

Not when the processing happens in one of the many data centers that'll be sold off when the AI bubble bursts.

I fully expect them to start heavily advertising VDI in the near future.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well... Okay. But only if I can keep paying the subscription fee for the rest of my life in order to maintain access.

[–] kwozyman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That's why we've created the GenPro tier of subscriptions, the first generational loan. Get it now and your kids can help pay of back!

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The money is micro transactions and the whales have $7k gpus...

Everyone else is just fodder so the pay to win accounts have someone to feel better than.

COD a while ago got caught out for juicing the matchmaking odds right after you buy a new skin. Didn't matter what you bought or how much. A purchase made your next couple lobbies be filled with scrubs on one side, and you and some above averages on the other.

After X amounts of games it wore off, and since those games pushed you up in the normal metrics, you're now in lobbies above your skill level. So even if you get a "fair" game, you're going to do badly, until you buy a skin again or lose to your actual skill level.

That's why everyone started complaining about COD matchmaking, even if you bought nothing, everyone was on the same micro transaction maximizing rollercoaster.

A cynic would say that's why it went free on Xbox, they need a population of players to make the whale milking work. Even if those people only fire it up a few hours a month and never buy anything, getting matched with someone above your skill level who just bought a stupid skin makes you the product they sell to the whales.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (7 children)

programmers will start being more frugal with their memory usage.

They 100% will.

Windows had started only "certifying" machines with 32gb as "windows ready" because they wanted the headroom to cram on AI features and use what we pay for instead of a data center.

But because no one was buying 32gb machines and a machine without that sticker will end up with Linux....

They just dropped it, and now they'll have to keep optimizing for 16gb instead of just letting everything bloat. If they don't, they risk every entry level machine making people eventually switch to Linux for a much better experience. Windows has to run on entry level or people don't get sucked in, no one converts to windows later in life.

That's a huge deal, if 32gb was the default for windows it would be the default for everything. Every game and design/modeling program would feel safe to assume 32gb was the norm. Like, imagine what chrome would do assuming there's 32gb to play with.

Now they can't, and they'll know requiring 32gb will cut off some possible consumers.

It's not like Windows is the good guys tho, it never should have been 32, and arguably should be 8gb forever, even if it required a lightweight mode. Most people would prefer a super stripped down Windows even with 64gb. Most of the bloat is useless, I could live without any updates after we didn't have to quit to DOS to launch a game.

[–] Sequence5666@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am quite amazed at your knowledge and foresight. Really cool!

I never assumed such a scenario where ram limit will limit our infrastructure too. What do you consider will happen with people who are actually needing ram but unable to afford? And that number reaches significantly higher volume, like 60% of population?

Like maybe an open source project of building ram seems feasible?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What will happen is they'll start selling zero clients and a subscription to a virtual desktop, using all of the data centers left over after the AI bubble pops.

Unless someone decides to enter the chip fab industry just for consumer hardware, owning your own machine might not be a thing in a few years.

[–] Sequence5666@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That does make sense. That means cloud storage is cheaper, few years from now. And more tracking of our personal data.

Going to invest in Linux + HDD, because these things will only push us to subscription bs.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

If corporate lets them use Qt instead of Electron, yes. If not, we will continue to see memory usage rises all over the place.

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, you only need 4gb to run Win11.

The 32gb referred to gaming PC's

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 6 days ago

Have you ever tried running win11 on 4gb? It runs about as fast as pouring molasses.

[–] Exec@pawb.social -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Windows had started only “certifying” machines with 32gb as “windows ready” because they wanted the headroom to cram on AI features and use what we pay for instead of a data center.

Meanwhile as of 4 days ago: https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-quietly-purges-32gb-of-ram-recommendations-from-its-website-company-reels-from-the-effects-of-the-memory-shortage-as-it-released-8gb-base-models-for-surface-laptops-this-year

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Buddy, really?

But because no one was buying 32gb machines and a machine without that sticker will end up with Linux…

They just dropped it,

Did you not understand it or just assume none of the later text kept explaining it so you immediately stopped ready?

It's not just you, I see this shit all over these days, what the fuck are you people doing?

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no one converts to windows later in life

That’s why you gotta start kids off right. Perfect starter laptop is the 10 year old clunker running Mint.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Have seen multiple ones going back to Windows after years of Linux usage, usually those who saw Linux as not a tool, but a "hobby OS" to tinker with. The moment stuff became "way too easy", they left. (Also they're usually bigots, and didn't like the "trans coder" stereotype.)

[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

That's weird. If they want an OS to tinker with, Windows is the worst option really. Why not Arch or Gentoo or NixOS?

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[–] Sheldan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Everything is a Browser.

No chance.

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Of course a chat program needs a 4GB electron app. That's the bare minimum to match 1990s ICQ.

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[–] Xyphius@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's been my hope. Maybe get another wonder like Doom

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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