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this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2026
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It definitely seems to go against the spirit of how the company is being promoted.
They sell themselves as being user-oriented. There's a million things these companies could do to make money off of your data, and this one claims to sacrifice all of that for the good of the user.
Now it turns out they are using shady anti-user marketing practices, which is almost to be expected for a for-profit company in this day and age. It does not align with a model that claims to have the user's best interest at heart though, which is how they promote themselves.
I haven't found their activism pitch to be credible for a while. One of the more eye-opening incidents was when ProtonMail gave up IP logs of a user and then removed "no logging" claims from their website. And then the next incident. And the next.
I have. Over and over again.
When Proton says "We are a neutral and safe haven for your personal data, committed to defending your freedom", but never defends anybody's freedom, they could either
Why are you lying about me? In my link I literally addressed you already:
And I just said that Proton can stop telling lies themselves. They can change their homepage and stop promoting marketing you disagree with at any time.
Do you think that "We are a neutral and safe haven for your personal data, committed to defending your freedom" is fulfilled by a transparency page?
Edit: after I asked this question, malebedo shut down. There is no further constructive dialogue after this point.
I don't care if Proton is just as bad as everybody else, assuming that's even true.
I care that you refuse to answer
Because your silence sounds like an admission that you believe Proton is lying.
Anyone who trusted them was a dumbfuck.
I feel so fucking vindicated never trusting them every single time I learn something about them.
Which company are you talking about?
Proton