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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 44 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Chinese citizen would be living under

Correction: Chinese citizens already living under a surveillance state. UK and now US and also many other countries is merely learning from the best(worst). Mandatory age verification for socmed and game? China already have that years ago. ISP level blocking? Great Firewall of China is there from the beginning.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

End to end encryption chats are banned in China btw. China is living in this complete dystopia already and the only reason we don't hear it because China is very good at hiding this. The great firewall is as much to contain Chinese inside as it is to repel others.

[–] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

China is very good at hiding this

then how do you know about this ?

[–] qwertyuiop@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago

End to end encryption chats are banned in China btw

I know imessage is commonly used and it's e2e. The firewall is a blacklist not a whitelist, and Github isn't blocked. They would have to manually block any server that hosts matrix/xmpp if they wanted to actually enforce that. The most annoying thing they do (at least in Shanghai) is the ISP's have raw.githubusercontent.com resolve to 0.0.0.0, but you can just manually add the ip in your /etc/hosts file. Maybe it's to make downloading releases tarballs more annoying to encourage domestic alternatives?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 12 points 14 hours ago

The US was spying on all backbone data 20 years ago. The US has no need to block websites because it has a big enough propaganda network to control the narrative on those websites, and there is less incentive to propping up the US tech industry by blocking competition like there is with the Chinese tech industry.