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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

what fucking dashcams connect to the internet? and why would someone want to pay for a dataplan for it?

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Chinese citizen would be living under

Correction: Chinese citizens already living under a surveillance state. UK and now US and also many other countries is merely learning from the best(worst). Mandatory age verification for socmed and game? China already have that years ago. ISP level blocking? Great Firewall of China is there from the beginning.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

End to end encryption chats are banned in China btw. China is living in this complete dystopia already and the only reason we don't hear it because China is very good at hiding this. The great firewall is as much to contain Chinese inside as it is to repel others.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

The US was spying on all backbone data 20 years ago. The US has no need to block websites because it has a big enough propaganda network to control the narrative on those websites, and there is less incentive to propping up the US tech industry by blocking competition like there is with the Chinese tech industry.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm doing my part!

[–] sienachneidera@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago
[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The surveillance state is not just in the US. China and the UK love that shit too. Pretty much any government with the money and will for it is doing it for the benefit of a digital panopticon.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Funny how this surveillance never correlates with any happiness or safety metrics. It's almost like it's not there to improve society but to control it or something 🤔

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Did you cry hard enough when the orange man died?

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It isn't just a surveillance state, they are 100% building a behavior prediction algorithm state.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Season 3 of Westworld seems to be a bit more realistic than I had initially thought.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The US government already started pre-crime policing. No future tense about it, full on dystopia is already here.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 4 points 5 hours ago

If a man is guilty for what goes on in his mind

Then give me the electric chair for all my future crimes

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

John Oliver just did an episode on Police Surveillance Technology. It's sad and scary stuff.

He also mentioned Atlas of Surveillance, a website to check what's going on in your area.

[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 hours ago

For decades people have been warming about inverted totalitarianism.. where private companies do the heavy lifting in controlling and surveillance or the population. Very few listened. Now that we are approaching complete sacrifice of your privacy to these companies, people are finally waking up. But it may be too late.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

reason #(big number) to not go to the US

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 81 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (9 children)

Capitalists are constantly telling on themselves.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 60 points 15 hours ago (15 children)

This isn't a capitalism problem. It's an authoritarianism problem. The only thing about this that relates to capitalism is that it's a private company setting up the cameras instead of the state doing it.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 33 points 14 hours ago

Capitalism is pretty inherently authoritarian. The boss calls the shots.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 40 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's a gross over simplification that ignores the influence of the insurance industry shifting the baseline of public surveillance and crony capitalism that infects our municipalities.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 55 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

We weren't jokingly saying the Chinese are living under it, though.

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Always thought it was weird that they would scoff at their "social credit score" system. Emphasis on "social". As if that was the fucked up part.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It amazes me that the western propaganda keeps talking about a Chinese social credit system that is an extension of existing social rankings and ratings in China which have existed for millennia, but no one blinks an eye to this American credit system that is horrendous. The Chinese system is mainly in place for business, not so much the individual, like in the US.

The US credit system is a way to make the poor, poorer with insane interest rates that are illegal in other parts of the world. The matrix for the credit system is unclear as it is managed by private companies. The whole thing is insane, but no let's point at evil China where the system has no impact on normal people, unlike in the US.

[–] Leet@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I don’t think China really has a social credit score do they? It was an abandoned pilot

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

except china ALSO has a credit system, exactly the same one we do in the west but with a nice topping of authoritarian dystopian government inputs. yay!

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You live outside reality in propaganda land. Yay!

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

What? You imply that china has no credit system?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 hours ago

The problem is that state agents can use surveillance tech or surveillance services with no regulatory review on how this technology interacts with the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, what is specifically supposed to protect Americans from this sort of stuff.

This is partly due to the presumption of regularity, the assumption by courts that law enforcement follows rules, even when we know they historically do not. (And DHS is even worse).

It's a separate problem that private companies can also buy this data. They shouldn't have the right to surveil Americans for private purposes any more than the state does.

Also be aware that some districts that are ending their contracts with Flock Safety are quietly switching over to other ALPR services such as Axon. Don't let your district get away with it.

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