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[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (7 children)

As someone with previous defense connections, I'd been wondering when we'd see this.

ITAR has severely restricted access to nav system tech export, but there was always this open question about reckoning position by visual cues rather than GPS + dead reckoning. We all knew it was technically feasible, but we assumed that having "visual" cues was further out because AI at the time wasn't up to the task.

The answer is the same, though. Nvidia, willing or not, is now a defendant in an unjust war, and must be subpoena'd by the ICC. At a minimum, they should be immediately sanctioned by foundry specialists (like ASML) until they are prepared to account for how, exactly, this tech ended up in a Russian missile.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.

For just terrain recognition, the US has had that since before there was GPS. Since the 1950s even.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

Lots of cheap plane-type drones do terrain navigation now. And the Russians are busily deploying their military version of Starlink.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Nvidia, willing or not, is now a defendant in an unjust war, and must be subpoena'd by the ICC.

Subpoenas only exist in the US. Since it did not sign the Rome treaty, and since Nvidia is an American company - the ICC has no power here.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

ITAR has severely restricted access to nav system tech export, but there was always this open question about reckoning position by visual cues rather than GPS + dead reckoning. We all knew it was technically feasible, but we assumed that having “visual” cues was further out because AI at the time wasn’t up to the task.

There's always going back to the old-fashioned method of having a trained pigeon inside of the device instead of a sophisticated computer vision system.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or the pigeon can be the drone itself, what a wonderful world it is

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wasn't there some historical leader with mad beef with someone they were at war with, she requested several pigeons as part of peace negotiations and she released them to fly back carrying burning twigs and absolutely destroyed the enemy city?

Edit: Added a necessary word lol

[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Current defense worker here:

Was talking with a coworker recently about how ITAR/EAR rules are hilariously out of date. Basic IMUs coming from China these days are good enough that you can establish a reasonable dead reckoning nav to where those parts of the munitions list are just defunct. Shit I did that in college ten years ago with high power rockets and things have only gotten better.

The new proposed regulations over AI chips are also wildly misguided and demonstrate how Congress/Executive branch have no idea what the tech even is. The top of the line chips today are needed for LLMs, fast fixture acquisition and tracking can be done on a way less powerful piece of hardware that new regulations will fail to stop (that's even assuming that the bans would have worked in the first place, which they won't)

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plenty of western tech still ends up in Russian weapons, it's nothing new. NVidia should be just put in queue.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plenty of western tech still ends up in Russian weapons

and they too should be held accountable.

[–] madmantis24@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago

If I can't buy lower-priced Chinese RAM, then Russia shouldn't be able to make weapons with our tech

I know that's not how it works but it should be

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

It might not even be for vision applications. These little tegra boxes end up in all sorts of rapid prototype DSP applications. It could easy be doing comms or ECM.