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    [–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Definitely true when learning Linux, but to be fair, things do break on their own. Example: just yesterday I updated fedora and it broke my network connections for my vms. I certainly didn’t do that, and it seems to be a repeating issue.

    But you wanna know what the difference is?

    1. A 30 second web search identified the problem and a quick edit of the network.conf text file fixed the issue.
    2. even if I couldn’t fix it, I could very easily roll the updates back
    3. this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

    Compare that to me updating win11 on a faster more capable computer a couple weeks ago:

    1. It broke like a bazillion things, well documented on the internet, no solutions other than “we’ll maybe fix that someday”
    2. the computer rebooted THREE times! 3! I’ve seen two-three was a new one
    3. it took 40 minutes on a 32 core threadripper, 64gb ram, plenty of free hard drive space, and a 4090 card. No, it wasn’t years of updates, and it wasn’t a major version update. It was maybe 1.5 months since last update.

    Linux is great, not perfect, but great with great communities.

    [–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

    honestly wth is windows update even doing? takes my thinkpad from 2020 about 30 min to recompile my ENTIRE nixos setup from scratch. FROM SCRATCH, freshly formatted drive, 30 minites later an entirely functional DE with all apps i need installed.

    How does windows manage to take longer, on better hardware, with something that should by all account be an easier cpu task? im baffled

    [–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

    100% agree. The windows fanbois always come out in force and defend Microsoft, they act like the abused in bad marriages defending their dirtbag husband who beats them /shrug

    It’s not a problem with my computer. I didn’t do anything “wrong”. I clean installed win 11 on its own hard drive because 1) I own a retail copy and 2) my daughter is taking the lsat test and it requires windows or macOS. The install took hours. And the part that slowed it down was the update process. Ok no big deal, it’s a new install, i mean fedora fresh installs in like 15 minutes (and most of that is me clicking buttons), but whatever. So that’s it, it’s just a clean install of win11. Every month or so, I boot it up and hit the update button. It’s painful, every time. Yes I get it’s designed to slow roll in the background but come on - if I open up settings -> windows update and hit the update now button - then get to work already. It’s always a 20+ minute process. This last one was exceptionally long, but you get my point.

    And these updates are always terrible, stuff breaks right away. After the last update the lock screen was all Asian characters. The rest of the OS was fine, just the lock screen changed. Dafuq? The recycle bin contents were all like hash file names. A year or two ago an update on my wife’s laptop wouldn’t proceed because the recovery partition that win11 itself created during install was too small. All other further updates wouldn’t go either because that one was stuck. Like grandma is going to resize partitions - granny’s computer is heading towards bot ville.

    Anyways ya, windows sucks big hairy donkey balls now. 50% of that suckage comes from windows update. The other 50% comes from them shoving poo in your face every chance it gets.

    this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

    idk microsoft has given me those damn expectations