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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/57660342

French Art historian Nathalie Trouveroy shared footage with Le Monde from her personal archives of the Tiananmen Square protests, shedding new light on how the Chinese regime violently repressed the student protests in June 1989.

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The analysis of previously unseen images obtained by "Le Monde" and leading testimonies provide a better understanding of how the Chinese regime gradually shifted to the violent repression of the student demonstrations in the spring of 1989.

Spring 1989, Tiananmen Square. At the heart of the student demonstrations, a young expatriate, Nathalie Trouveroy, films the Beijing protesters, their slogans, their enthusiasm and their fear with her Hi8 video camera. These images, which remained in a family setting for a long time, are unpublished archives obtained by Le Monde.

Her husband, Guy Trouveroy, was then a political adviser at the Belgian Embassy in Beijing. For seven weeks, the couple were privileged witnesses to the regime's hesitation, torn between dialogue, obstruction and repression of the demonstrators. When the movement turns in favour of democratic measures, the communist government sends tanks against the population. On the night of 3-4 June 1989, the massacre took place. The repression would spread throughout China.

Since then, the Chinese authorities have been trying to erase Tiananmen from the collective memory. But, thirty-eight years later, Nathalie Trouveroy's never-before-seen video and photo archives have come to light. With these family images, the Trouveroy couple intend to preserve the memory of the victims of the bloody repression of the Tiananmen movement.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 42 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

That would be weird since China claims it simply didn't happen. Kinda hard to claim self defense and "that didn't happen" at the same time.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

Nonsense. Changing your beliefs is a natural part of tankie ideology. You can't be cornered in an argument if you say something completely different every comment.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Well I mean literally there was no massacre in tiennimen square. There were clashes in the surrounding area.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

American propaganda would make goebbels blush.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You would know that, wouldn't you...

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Uhh, yeah. It's pretty easy to spot, as a non-American.

You're telling me you trust the government that has lied about every military engagement it's been in since WWII, who's been run by an elite billionaire pedophile child sex trafficking ring?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

What makes you assume I get my info from the american government? The facts about tiennimen square are pretty widely known outside of tankie-land, I don't need the CIA whispering in my ear to tell you the PLA slaughtered civilian protesters.

You really seem to support the police though. Weird.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Were the goalposts inside the square, or well actually I meant the goalposts near the square?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There's a material difference between the story most lemmitors insist on, that all the peaceful protesters just wanted freedom, and communists hate freedom so they machine-gunned 20,000+ protesters in the square then ran them over with tanks until there was nothing left and "protesters lynched a bunch of soldiers, took their weapons, and battled cops in the streets. Hundreds of people died in the fighting, over a thousand wounded".

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Their propaganda makes it easier to swallow the "China bad" narrative they've been fed their entire lives.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Look it up and get back to me 👌