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[–] vrek@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As the accused you can appeal. So if you found guilty and then there is new evidence, better science, an impartial jury etc you can appeal and argue you are innocent. But if you are found innocent the state can't do the same.

Let's say there's a murder 5 years before dna evidence is discovered. The state accuses someone and puts them on trial and a verdict is declared. Now dna evidence is discovered. If the person was found guilty they can file an appeal saying based on this new dna evidence they can prove they are are innocent. If the person was found innocent however the state can not file an appeal saying based on this new DNA evidence now we can prove that person did it.

State gets one shot at proving you guilty, you get multiple to prove you're innocent.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the same here, but the state can appeak the verdict within a certain short period. The verdict is only final once there is no more room for appeals or the period to make an appeal has passed.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

I am not a lawyer but in the US I believe once the verdict of not guilty is given the state is done. For example the oj Simpson case. Almost everyone agrees he likely did it but the jury gave the verdict not guilty because, according to interviews after, the state didn't provide enough evidence. They can't go back and say "sorry our lawyer was bad at his job, let's do a new trial". He was released and didn't face any criminal charges for the murder. Fun fact the Kardashians initially got famous/rich because the original father was one of oj's defense attorneys. Now they family of the victim later sued for emotional damage and won and he was also later arrested for other crimes but the criminal case of him killing his wife could/can't ever go back on trial.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

State gets one shot at proving you guilty, you get multiple to prove you're innocent.

To be fair, this sounds better than it works, as your appeal may take a lot of time to actually free you, even after the appeal is successful

[–] vrek@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

100% true but I was trying to explain the idea of double jeopardy then he brought up appeals so briefly tried to explain how that works