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[-] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 66 points 2 days ago

The fact that 44% of voters are glad to elect another Republican regardless of the Democratic opposition after how much of Project 2025 has been enacted already demonstrates that even in 50 years the U.S. probably won't be as liberal as the EU is now.

[-] SciencyScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I don't know if you can say the EU is liberal. The liberal EPP only holds 182 out of 720 seats in the European Parliament, for example. It seems in the US the term liberal is often used to indicate leftwing as well, but on (most of) the European political spectrum liberals are solidly rightwing and often fairly conservative on top of that.

[-] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

'Liberal' in general U.S. political usage is a catch-all term for the left; when being more specific, one can also distinguish 'Progressive' as being those further to the left.

My point was that many of the goals of democratic socialism in the U.S. are policies that are already widespread in the EU.

[-] stormeuh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Widespread but being dismantled as we speak.

While the general public is not as indoctrinated to hate socialism as in the US, they are still (being made) resistant to preserving or expanding the welfare state. Every time cuts are made to social programmes, (conservative) people will say "we should be grateful with what we get" and "well we can't afford to keep paying for that", especially if it's cuts in another country that "has it better". The media are an active and gleeful participant in this, constantly running stories about "OMG we are running a deficit" and "how are we going to afford to pay for pensions?", manufacturing consent all the way. Finally, the EU and ECB also play their role as boogeymen by reprimanding states who run deficits, which national politicians then use as an excuse to cut social spending, instead of cutting military spending or taxing the wealthy.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

This this this.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago

This is so stupid, if anything the whole "freedom" thing is liberal, and leftist is more state control so "less liberal".

Gotta muddy the waters eh.

[-] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

It's also worth nothing that the number of people willing to identify as Republican has been dropping precipitously. I'd like to see the same poll, but with Independents added in the mix.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

This poll includes independents.

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