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Not the bad porn script you were expecting, I swear. 🙃

So here's one for fans of grey areas.

SO has brought two daughters and a son into our relationship. They're all young adults now. We generally get along well and I'm a trusted third party and, according to the then-minor younger daughter, a good source for pregnancy tests and the such "because you're the least likely to freak out".

We're generally a very open and judgement-free family, and I'm immensely proud of the fact that the kids feel comfortable talking freely about love and sex with both of us despite their 'traditional' catholic ~~indoctrination~~ upbringing. We've established that we can talk about anything but won't go into detail about their or my personal preferences. This works very well and there's a lot of trust. Whenever their mother's not around, the kids talk to me about whatever's on their mind (anything really, not just love/sex stuff).

There's one thing that makes me slightly uncomfortable though, and I'm not sure if I'm the one who's at fault here. It’s the older daughter’s choice of clothing at home. Especially in summer and near the pool, she often walks around in a t-shirt or scant bikini top and panties whose front just about covers the crack and whose back leaves nothing to the imagination.

I'm very happy that she's both happy enough with her body and feels comfortable enough around me to walk around this way. Especially the former has been a bit of work on her mother's part.

Now my own background is that I come from a very uptight family myself (sex is an evil and shameful thing that the wife endures because she owes it to her husband) but am very open now (swinger clubs, former co-host for BDSM meetings etc.). I also have a minor degree in both communication and sex therapy.
Still you never entirely shake off an upbringing based entirely on shame and guilt, and occasionally there’s a situation that instinctively makes me uncomfortable, but upon closer inspection I conclude that it really shouldn’t.

I’m currently trying to figure out whether this is one of those false-alarm situations, and it really bothers me.
On the one hand, "you don’t wear that kind of outfit in front of men you’re not biologically related to."
On the other hand, why not? She should be able to wear whatever she’s comfortable with in the privacy of our home. And you can't make a request such as "dress more modestly" without it smelling of misogyny.
On the other other hand, it would definitely be inappropriate for her to walk around entirely in the nude, so there's got to be a line somewhere.

(Let me add that she’s never even remotely tried anything, and I really don’t think of her in 'that' way, so that’s not the issue.)

TL;DR: Adult stepdaughter sometimes wears revealing clothes, makes me uncomfortable, not sure if it’s supposed to. Nothing fishy going on.

EDIT: Wow, so much food for thought. I don't think I'm going to be able to reply to everyone individually, but I've come to realize that what makes me uncomfortable is probably the idea that she or other people around us might feel uncomfortable, and in the classic stepfather-stepdaughter constellation I could be seen as a potential 'perpetrator', which I'd need to protect myself against. So it's really just mostly me worrying about what other people might think (but probably don't).
But the point is, if she's comfortable there's really nothing tangible for me to worry about.

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[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sounds like the issue is that you feel sexually attracted to her at a purely base and instinctual level and you don't want to feel that way towards someone you consider as a daughter, and it's easier for you to try to have her fix the problem than for you to process your own lizard brain response to an attractive woman being near you.

There is nothing inherently wrong with feeling the way you're feeling, it just means that like most people you are not actually as noble and pure as you would prefer to be.

If you can process that whole shebang then it might make it easier for you to actually step into the role of being closer to your own personal ideal of pure.

I would start with taking a deep breath, holding it for the count of three, and then exhaling it and noting how you feel, what you feel, and how that makes you feel, and then accepting that without being influenced by it.

Sexual urges are normal. Not being in control of them is not normal.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also, don't tell your wife or daughter what you're going through unless you can't control it and need intervention from them.

They may think less of you for it but no one is perfect, and no one is expected to be perfect, but it's hard to explain to people the simple truths of these things without them judging you on their own criteria, and it would be rare to be in a situation where you can freely express your feelings of physical attraction to your step daughter without it seeming like a fetish kink perversion type thing and not as an involuntary neuronal activation response.

[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a really weird assumption that he has some hidden ~~pedophile~~ sexual urges just because he doesn’t want to see someone’s genitals.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

You've misread that entirely. There's no mention of pedophilia anywhere.

[–] Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get what you're saying and I'd have no problem admitting to what you're describing, but can honestly say that I'm really not attracted to her. Apart from the age difference (which is a real turn-off for me) and the fact that I'm married to her mother, she's just not my type. (And I'm thankful for that - I can only imagine the ways it would complicate things). I wouldn't consider her to be my daughter any more if I were her biological father.
Even my dick agrees, and he's known to have made some wildly inappropriate statements in the past.

[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Ya these responses are making some really weird assumptions. Don’t let them gaslight you.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Just from my interpretation of your post, it seems like the tiny little nugget of discomfort comes from you being aware that the situation could be viewed as inappropriate from an external source.

Whatever the specifics are I know you can work through it and come through and rescue the situation without having to alter the family dynamic to do so.

This is definitely an opportunity to build yourself up and make more of the potential that you have.

[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t understand why you assume it’s sexual.

[–] loops@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

In short:

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