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[-] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

You can play those semantic games if you want. It won't get you anywhere.

I need you to look up the Palmer raids or any other red scare nonsense in this country. No amount of "technically the constitution" is going to make your words "legal". The laws are made up and enforced with extreme violence by white supremacists.

The reason I say this to you: any sort of discussion about merely changing the system is going to be seen as treasonous. Mamdani was named by doj in conjunction with npsm 7 or whatever it is.

Analyze the material reality of the situation and act accordingly. I spend a lot of my time in my communities. Not all have the same overlapping goals. But none of them advocate for a revolution, that's an extreme risk for almost no upside.

[-] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

We can be very specific in contexts that are irrelevant to the US and it wouldn't change anything. I just decided that I am talking about Eritrea. Also, while it increasingly looks like certain political thought is going to be prosecuted in the US, making the spread of it revolutionary, it is currently not. It's not the situation of 100 years ago. Getting back there, I give you that, but not there yet.

And the whole discussion is about what accounts for revolutionary acts. I love that you work in communities working on improving life, but if they don't advocate for a revolution, they are not revolutionary. That's not an insult at all.

[-] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Woof.

Hey look this isn't meant to be insulting.

Go out and meet some people and do some organizing. Just go talk to people. You're going to go in front of a fascist judge sending you to a concentration camp in El Salvador and your defense is "I was talking about Eritrea"? Good luck with that. No one doing work is going to accept that from you either lol.

[-] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I mean, I am not from the US, so I don't care either way and it remains a purely ideological/philosophical discussion. Eritrea is just an example of a dictatorship nobody seems to care about, to ground the discussion. But if it is actually that bad in the US, that even hypotheticals can get a citizen deported to a foreign concentration camp, I am very sorry to hear and I send you all my love and best wishes.

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