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[-] naught101@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago
[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

User: - I wish Linux to win over Windows! evil laugh Monkey paw: - Done. China mandates Linux, US mandates Windows. Everything else is a crime punishable by death

[-] luthis 2 points 2 days ago

China does a lot of things that are good and then counteracts them with bad, like monkey paw wishes. This is just another example

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago
[-] luthis 2 points 2 days ago

Some examples: China produces a huge amount of solar panels that we need for green energy. China is also building and using a ton of coal power plants, more than any other country.

China is moving away from Microsoft which will lead to decrease in Microsoft power and hopefully lead to a bunch of work on open source projects. China is also comitting genocide on the Uyghurs.

Etc

[-] stumu415@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

There is not one truth in your fantasy.

[-] luthis 0 points 19 hours ago

Oh really? China doesn't make solar panels? I could have sworn I saw 'made in china' on a bunch of solar panels recently, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks, I'll make sure to report all articles on China and solar panels as fake news.

You're not using consumption adjusted emissions and are therefore accidentally saying nonsense, if you use consumption based emissions, the us is at like double... so uh no, they win there too undeniably.

Also the trajectory is better too.

i'm not saying china is great but that's a nonsense point.

[-] luthis 4 points 1 day ago

China has more coal power plants than any other country, by a huge margin. 8x more than the US. How is that nonsense?

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For two reasons

  1. They're manufacturing for other countries, hence the indexed emissions I recommended. Consumption adjusted emissions tells a much more fair story, it's easy to be zero emissions if you move all manufacturing to china.
  2. Massive population.

It's not a valid metric. Per thing consumed china creates way less emissions.

[-] luthis -2 points 1 day ago

Strange, I don't remember mentioning emissions at all. Pretty sure I was contrasting producing green tech with dirty power plants.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

...what is the problem with coal plants if not emissions?

Anyway, my point is that most of those coal plants are essentially doing work for other countries, since other countries are importing their goods. It's misleading to say china's power is dirty when they're doing practically the entire worlds manufacturing. Then there's the population difference, the trajectory of green power, and the fact that there the coal plants are primarily used as toppers.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Those latter two examples seem pretty unrelated. I'm no fan of China's government for various reasons, but them moving away from Microsoft seems like a good outcome for everyone.

[-] luthis -2 points 1 day ago

More software freedom, less human freedom

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Those are not causally related

[-] luthis -2 points 1 day ago

I never said they were and that wasn't my point?

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Ok, what is your point?

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