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Many countries include 'Democratic' or 'People's' in their names, even though they are not democratic and do not serve their people. Examples: Democratic People's Republic of Korea Lao People's Democratic Republic People's Democratic Republic of Algeria Democratic Republic of the Congo And German Democratic Republic (East Side) in 1949–1990. None of these states are democratic, power and wealth are concentrated in the hands of a small ruling elite. Who are they fooling with these names?

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[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 11 hours ago

Marxist-Leninist theory judges democracy by class content, not procedure. The key question is "democracy for which class?" Liberal democracies are seen as formally free but substantively controlled by capital (bourgeois democracy), while one-party socialist states claim to be "people's democracies" because the state (in theory) represents the working class/peasantry against capitalist and landlord classes. Popular will, in this framework, isn't expressed through multiparty competition but through the party as the organized vanguard representing proletarian class interests — elections, if held, ratify this rather than allow contestation between competing class programs.

This is in contrast to Liberal democracy defines democracy procedurally: competitive multiparty elections, freedom of speech/press/association, checks on power, peaceful transfer of power. By this standard, one-party states with suppressed opposition and concentrated power fail regardless of their self-description.

So on the naming question, This is genuinely contested. Two views exist:

Official/Marxist-Leninist justification: These states claim genuine "people's democracy" precisely because it excludes bourgeois parties and concentrates power to defend workers' interests against capitalist restoration — so from their own theoretical framework, the name isn't false, it's just a different definition of democracy.

Critical/liberal view (widely held in the West and by many scholars): The names are propaganda — legitimizing branding for authoritarian, often personalist or elite-controlled, rule with little actual popular participation or accountability.

Which framing is "correct" depends on which definition of democracy you accept as valid — that's ultimately a normative/philosophical dispute, not a factual one.

[-] majster@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

Thank you comrade Deepseek o7

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

These states claim genuine "people's democracy" precisely because it excludes bourgeois parties and concentrates power to defend workers' interests against capitalist restoration

This makes zero sense. If power is concentrated, then it doesn't represent workers interests. If it represented all workers interests, then power would be diffused.

How are these one-party governments, gauging the interests of their workers? How are they doing this without democracy and voting? Afaik these countries don't even ask their citizens for feedback

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 3 points 2 hours ago
[-] kalpol@lemmy.ca 2 points 48 minutes ago

I feel like I sense AI but it is stl pretty informative

[-] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Is there much scholarly debate on the validity of these opposing definitions? It seems like it'd be difficult to support an argument that the Marxist-Leninist style governments support the working class more than a procedural democracy.

[-] sanae@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

thanks for the explanation

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Love it when someone asks why socialists do something, then reject the socialists’ own explanation for the capitalist propaganda explanation.

You shouldn’t be getting downvoted, you are literally just explaining the differences in how democracy is viewed by socialists.

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's not getting rejected for being different, it's getting rejected for being logically unsound

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