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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I just don't understand how you can be informed about politics and not understand the enormous gulf between the two primary options. Even for the examples I gave where you can say yes, technically the Biden admin did this too, the difference in scale is staggering.

DOGE had complete unsupervised access to every government agency without proper security clearance or logging, for example. Trump was literally found in a court of law to have raped someone. Several people who had participated in an ICE protest but left before it became violent were sentenced to 30 to 70 years in prison.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

I just don’t understand how you can be informed about politics and not understand

This is such a wild thing to say immediately after demonstrating that you were completely uninformed about Biden's crimes

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

I just don’t understand how you can be informed about politics and not understand the enormous gulf between the two primary options.

Being informed about politics leads one to understand that there is no such gulf.

Like, you literally thought that ICE appeared less than two years ago, that Biden didn't take part in any invasions, that Biden didn't openly abuse power to shield his family from the laws he himself pushed through decades ago, and so on.

the difference in scale is staggering.

It's not. The difference is just decorum and lack thereof.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago

Like, you literally thought that ICE appeared less than two years ago, that Biden didn’t take part in any invasions, that Biden didn’t openly abuse power to shield his family from the laws he himself pushed through decades ago, and so on.

Sorry, I'm not interested in conversing with someone who can't read what I've already said.

It’s not. The difference is just decorum and lack thereof.

...or someone who doesn't have any idea what's happening outside.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

Sorry, I’m not interested in conversing with someone who can’t read what I’ve already said.

What you said was that ICE wasn't a thing under Biden and Obama.

…or someone who doesn’t have any idea what’s happening outside.

When you were listing differences between Trump and the preceeding blue fascists, the things that you listed were also features under said blue administrations.

The fact is that the only thing that is significantly different in this case is decorum, the lack of which you abhor more than literal genocides.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

LITERALLY no on all three counts. I pointed to specific instances of their policy differences and did not make any of the statements you just claimed I did. You are sitting in the cave arguing against shadows on the wall.

Again, there is no point conversing if you are not capable of responding to reality.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

So, you weren't the one who said this?

Different doesn’t mean Biden was good, just that he was so much better than the alternative. ... Deport citizens arrested by ICE to third-world countries with no trial and refuse to bring them back?

Even for the examples I gave where you can say yes, technically the Biden admin did this too

Again, if your prior list, where you say that Buden (and Obama) didn't use ICE and didn't bomb other countries (technically, you were only concerned with ships for some reason) and the like, was not what you meant, you are free to actually mention things that you think are substantial differences between Trump and the preceding genocidaires in chief.

[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

And I don't understand how you can see them do the above listed things, and claim that there is an "enormous gulf between the two primary options". Yes, there are minor differences, but to say there is an "enormous gulf", serously downplays how evil and monsterous Biden was.

Liberals refusing to see how evil and monsterous their politicians are, is one of the reasons that other monsters like Trump keep getting elected.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago

I mean, is there anything he did significantly worse than the Trump admin you would like to share with me?

[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

Not really, no. Like I said, they were very similar.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago

I seriously cannot understand how people believe this. Do you participate in US news discussion?

[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Well, if you ignore the bad things that someone does, then I can see how this can be confusing. I participate in US news discussions all the time, that's how I know that Biden is a terrible person, who did terrible things.

If you want to be less confused, I'd recommend that you do the same.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Clearly they do more than you do, given they're were aware of Biden's crimes that you weren't. Also, you can't understand how people believe that because you can't imagine thinking of Palestinians as human

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