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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by WorkingPie@feddit.online to c/linux@programming.dev

Been a long time Debian user but with the recent AI decision I am planning on moving on so anyone have an anti-AI recommendations? I understand its being used in the kernel as well but are there any distros taking a full anti-AI approach to the parts of the code they control?

Since folks seem a little confused on what I am referring to here is the mailing list page regarding the use of gen ai without disclosure vote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2026/08/msg00360.html

Phoronix article on it: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Votes-Responsible-AI-Use

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[-] popcar2@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

There are plenty (and I mean plenty) of free open-source AI, including some with open datasets that are not stolen.

I really wish people wouldn't use "AI is theft" as a blank term because the technology itself is not inherently bad. We can hate OpenAI and still run local models.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

By the way, there's like two open-source LLMs, which are large enough to be usable in some form. And one of them claims not to contain pirated training data. It's pretty much the opposite of "plenty".

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago
[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, good question! I bet nobody even knows their names. I had hoped to get a reply by @popcar2@programming.dev or @sims@lemmy.ml who seem to know plenty of them?!

I was talking about the RedPajama project who recreated the dataset of Meta's LLaMA and proceedingly trained a model on it. And Apertus by the ETH Zürich. They also factored in ethics when compiling the dataset.

I made a post asking on !localllama: https://programming.dev/post/55905594
In case anyone knows about the existence of such models, please educate me over there!

One more than i knew thank.

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