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[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

This is such a nonstory, but okay, cool. AOC was a member previously, certainly seems to be pretty damned compatible with her views, and once the DSA noticed she wasn't a member, renewed her membership.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The DSA didn't "notice" anything. They've known the whole time. She left the DSA to join the Democratic party because the Democratic party was the only way to get elected anywhere. Because they had such a stranglehold on the "left wing" of our political system. What changed is that's no longer the case. The Democratic party is falling to shit because of the centrists who are basically Republicans at this point. So she is leaving that party and going back to the DSA and solidifying her position there because like her we all need to abandon the Democratic party and embrace Democratic socialism.

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

She left the DSA to join the Democratic party

DSA is not a party. That's part of the reason it's unable to discipline elected officials . . . which is one reason that AOC is able to do nonsense like "working tirelessly for a ceasefire" and find no reprecussion from the org.

But nobody leaves DSA to join the Democrats. Most DSA members ARE registered Democrats, especially in closed primary states.

do nonsense like "working tirelessly for a ceasefire" and find no reprecussion from the org.

Explain how that's nonsense? It's not like she has the power to actually solve it

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Stating that the Biden administration, which controls the weapons going to Israel, is "working ceaselessly for a ceasefire" is nonsense because they could have forced one any time they chose.

In fact, they were legally required not to provide arms to a genocide.

AOC didn't have to give them cover. But she did. DSA, meanwhile, can't do shit about her doing that.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

The DSA didn’t “notice” anything. They’ve known the whole time.

I'd love a source for this claim.

She left the DSA to join the Democratic party because the Democratic party was the only way to get elected anywhere.

The DSA is a political organization, not a political party. They do not run candidates. They do endorse people.

If you are DSA and run for office, you run as a Democrat or Independent or whatever else.

So this is two strikes against you knowing what you're talking about.

So she is leaving that party and going back to the DSA

You are ignorant of what the DSA actually is.

because like her we all need to abandon the Democratic party and embrace Democratic socialism.

I support the DSA because they are the most progressive organization out there, and they are actually getting support, so I feel my support of them increases the visibility and support for progressive ideas. And I am not afraid of the word "socialism", and if "democratic socialism" takes off and helps us get human rights, social safety nets, and all the other things, I'm all for it.

That said, most people who are running for office who affiliate with the DSA will be running as....... wait for it.......... Democrats.

Including AOC.

So please go do a little research.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’d love a source for this claim.

The source is literally in the OP article.

Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

No, the source does not make that claim. But more importantly, I see you're ignoring the rest of their misinformation. Even if I concede that point, which I am not prepared to do, the rest of their comment is sheer bullshit.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago

I didn't say anything about the rest of their comment. You asked for a source and I provided it.

How on earth does a source talking about the DSA deliberately withdrawing their support not contradict your claim that they "didn't notice" she wasn't a member?

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It added: “Previously, the representative joined DSA in 2018 with a one-year membership, which DSA’s national leadership recently noticed had lapsed, in 2019. She has since renewed her membership as of this month.”

Do you not understand language?

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

AOC has previously made a deliberate point of talking about not being a member of the national organization, but rather her local one. The national DSA withdrew their conditional endorsement over her stance on Israel.

Now that they're making amends, they're putting it that way to be diplomatic, as though it was a simple oversight. But there have been significant rifts and disagreements, so it isn't a non-story like you suggested.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Now you're making new claims that are NOT in the article that you have not sourced.

Don't bother, I don't care enough to look further nor care more to listen to you. Have a day. Maybe even a good day. :) But certainly have a day (becuse the alternate would suck, and I'm attempting humour by implying "have a bad day', but it's just being silly at you. In case that feels like mixed messages, our interaction is irritating, but c'est la vie, humour indicates it's not personal, just disagreement with what you're saying)

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The DSA didn't "notice" anything. They've known the whole time. She left the DSA to join the Democratic party because the Democratic party was the only way to get elected anywhere.

That's not how it works though. DSA is legally a 501c4. It parasitize the Democratic ballot line, but any DSA member running on the Dem ballot line wouldn't have to give up their DSA membership.

What happened here was likely that her dues lapsed without her knowing(a thing that happens relatively often, and it isn't anyone's fault), and nobody noticed. National has to submit requests to the relevant staff for that information, so they weren't checking. And NYC-DSA, who would have been the ones responsible for checking when doing endorsements, just assumed she was a still paying dues, when she wasn't.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 3 days ago
[-] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 8 points 3 days ago

The tea party was just a movement, not a political party, and they eventually took over the Republican Party. I expect this will eventually happen because they don’t want to split the party or make a new one that’s never going to win major elections.

[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

No this is huge. a large political statement actually in light of recent events

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