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Russia threatens direct strikes on Germany and warns UK over military site attacks
(www.independent.co.uk)
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A quick reminder that China is a decisive enabler of Russia's war in Ukraine with Xi Jinping having repeatedly reaffirmed the “ironclad friendship” between China and Russia.
they are more than enabling, they are providing enhancments to thier shahed drones, which are now much faster.
True, but don't forget European countries aren't innocent either. They have supported all of, and continue to happily support USA's and Israel's unprovoked invasions and genocides.
Not necessarily saying one side is worse - although tbh we kinda are - but mainly highlighting that Europe is in no position to claim moral high ground.
This is Chinese-Russian propaganda whataboutism.
China helps Russia upgrade Shaheds into a new threat for Ukraine.
Since at least 2025, China is supplying Russia with new decoy drones and engines to boost Russia’s production..
China of aiding Russia with satellite intelligence during deadly drone strikes.
And so the stories goes on.
Russia is waging a war against Europe, and China is its decisively supporting this. These are two dictatorships against Europe.
You just posted 3 sources for the same thing, that was never questioned by anybody in this thread.
What are you even talking about?
I'm stating clear, objective facts. How many people died in Ukraine, invasion of which China supports? And how many people have died in Palestine, Iran, and Venezuela, invasions of which most of Europe supports? Not to mention the previous 50+ invasions.
There's nothing 'whataboutism' about this. The main issue here is European entitlement. How can you look at all the atrocities we've openly supported and continue happily supporting, and say: "Yeah, that's fine."
If pointing out the biggest atrocities ever committed by mankind is whataboutism, then I guess human lives really are worthless, and all we can do is continue slaughtering children.
The simple fact is - as long as the EU continues supporting the US and Israel, it has absolutely no business acting like it's morally superior.
If it really wants to have a moral high ground, then it's simple. Cut all ties with the US and Israel, unilaterally condemn both, send aid to Palestine, and there you go. Unless priorities are different and genocide is permissible if it provides benefits. Surely that's not the case?
It is not whataboutism? Huh?
So a serial killer can freely criticize and make judgments about other killers, because bringing up his crimes would be whataboutism? Is that where we are?
Source: Whataboutism - Wikipedia
Which part of my comments fits this definition? I'm not defending anyone or redirecting the argument in any direction.
It's a basic fucking concept that you don't get to claim moral high ground or make judgments when you're guilty of incomparably worse crimes. Simple as that.
If you want to call others evil, how about first trying and being less evil than them? Is it really so much to ask? Or do we just not care, because moral superiority was promised to Europe 3000 years ago?
Starting point: Russia and China bad What you say: But don't forget Europe, they are also bad
And you do not see whataboutism? Are you serious?