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It's increasingly looking like we are losing the fight against climate change. Is there even anything left we could do?

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[-] Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hey maybe I misunderstood your comment, but your comment seemed to suggest it's something we layman should look into if we wanted to do something, but if so you might as well suggest people look into car manufacturing.

The problem with farming is that it has become one of the most advanced sectors out there. It's drones, autonomous tractors, AI, micro-targeting, lasers, ground penetrating radar, it's three story floating factories that produce finished goods in harbour. It's far far above the skill level of most of us here, especially if you want to produce the volumes required without high emissions, even more so as the climate changes and soil degradation continues unabated on a global scale.

We're hurtling towards famines across the globe and all the unrest that causes. Billions are already vulnerable. It is possible we will simply not be able to produce enough food, sooner rather than later.

We're so fucked. I need to go to sleep.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 6 days ago

Come to think of it there is something to be said for small-scale, amateurish, and inefficient operations. It's not practical for a small group of people to replace the industrial machinery of car manufacturing, but we can learn to build, maintain, and repair bicycles — relying on substantially less in the way of manufactured parts from China than would be required for other transportation systems.

Similarly we can't easily replace the entire system of industrial agriculture that's playing its part in wrecking the world, but we can get together with some neighbours to plant and maintain an orchard of fruit trees that will keep on producing stuff for people to eat no matter what happens to international trade and global shipping routes. Why shouldn't we? The idea is not to save the entire world from itself, the idea is to build up the local community, get people more connected to the land and to each other, and with any luck have some nice fruit to eat.

A million such little local experiments, each one seemingly insignificant on the global scale, conducted under whatever hellish conditions the future brings by people desperate to come up with some better way to live — it might add up to something. It is, in any case, something to do.

[-] Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Small scale co-op bicycle manufacture and repair is eminently feasible. Especially if it's a simple single speed.

The problem with farming is that the world is arguably over-populated, so you need mass scale high tech farming to feed all those people, especially with global soil degradation approaching catastrophic levels and climate change reducing yields.

Small scale farms will never be enough. Also, it would likely actually be more polluting, because you'd end up tilling (which contributes significantly to emissions) or fertilising less productive soil, and need more passes, when you have places where the soil needs relatively little tilling and fertilising. It makes sense to use the most productive soil, in the most efficient way possible, which means large scale and super high tech.

It's really not for the amateurs. Co-op orchards, jam and juice manufacture? Sure. But it'll never be enough. That's best left to the experts.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago

Again, I'm not out to save the entire world. If anyone thinks they can do that, good luck to them. I'd prefer to work on solving smaller problems than that. Everyone going vegetarian would help at a global scale but making that happen is not something you can feasibly do. Going vegetarian yourself won't fix world hunger or anything, but it's something you can do.

[-] Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Perfect is the enemy of good.

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