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[-] Semester3383@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Grabbing a drink isn't assault. Nor is it battery. It is, at most, petty theft.

So no, he actually started the physical altercation, which means that all of your assertions are false.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Grabbing a drink isn’t assault. Nor is it battery. It is, at most, petty theft.

Common misconception. You should read the legal definitions of both "assault" and "battery". I would guess that you're conflating the "aggravated" variants for the simple variants. Grabbing a glass from someone's hand does, actually, meet the criteria of simple assault and simple battery.

Assault: "Assault is generally defined under common law as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. No physical injury is required, but the actor must have intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the victim and the victim must have thereby been put in immediate apprehension of such contact."

Battery: "Battery is the intentional infliction of harmful or offensive physical contact with another person without consent."

Basically, "assault" is merely making someone think you're going to touch them without consent, and "battery" is merely touching someone without consent. Grabbing the drink meets the legal definitions of both. Throwing a drink on someone also meets the definition of both.

"Petty theft" (Petty Larceny) applies to simply taking something without consent. When any level of force is used against a person in the process of the taking, it is not "theft" or "larceny". It is "robbery". The use of force in the taking is the defining difference between theft/larceny and robbery.

Whether her intention was assault and battery or robbery, she initiated the physical altercation. He might not have been justified in throwing the liquid at her, but she certainly provoked that response with unjustifiable use of force.

I stand by my analysis. She committed simple assault and battery in #1.

#1 might not justify #2. He might get charges of disorderly conduct for #2.

#2 certainly does not justify #3. She committed assault and battery in #3. Simple or aggravated is an open question.

#3 certainly justified #4.

#5 might not have been justified. It's an open question.

#7 was not justified.

#7 justified #8.

[-] Semester3383@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

There's no reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or even offensive contact there. If you clipped the rest of the video off, and showed a jury just the video up to the grabbing of the drink, none of them would agree that it creates a reasonable apprehension.

But you're proving that you're a misogynistic shitstain, so there's that.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago

Don't bother this guy is a fucking idiot. This is his break down;

  • Reaching for a drink that's launched in your face is ASSAULT!!

  • Kicking someone after shoving them is questionable

What a stupid fuck that guy is.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 2 weeks ago

My arguments are consistent regardless of the genders of the participants. Yours clearly are not. Mine would hold up with two men, two women, two NBs, or any two adults of any sex, gender, race, creed, color, national origin. Switch any gender of any participant here, and you have a big, politically incorrect problem with your current position.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 weeks ago

No they're not. They're fucking dumb and everyone reading this thread seems to think the same thing.

You're literally trying to say she touched him first. On a date.

From your perspective a partner would have the right to choke slam their partner if they surprised them with a hug because they touched them first.

From your perspective one person is not responsible from removing themselves from danger, they're responsible for hurting people to make a point and exert control.

You're stupid go drink whatever liquids are under your sink.

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