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[-] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Excuse me, but I can't agree with your position here.Is a woman not allowed to realize itself through motherhood?

Of course. And according to Joanne KKK Rowling, that's the only way you can be a woman; if you can produce children. Women are the ones with the large gametes! That's the definition of woman, nothing else. Screw all cis-women who don't fit the mold.

You're not allowed to be too feminine, but also if you don't adhere to white-feminine beauty standards you're also bad.

Also Molly was smart and fierce (remember fight with Bellatrix Lestrange?

I do! "NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU DON'T!"

No matter what, Molly is nothing but a mother. There's no character there beyond that.

And I personally know such girls.It's perfectly normal for a girl to be like that.Also her persona and stance evoke respect in the reader, as well as a sense that she is being treated unfairly.

You've missed my point. My point is, there are many ways of being a person, and many ways of being a girl or a woman. Rowling doesn't believe that, and the narrative she pushes explicitly defines what is and isn't from her perspective, an acceptable way of being a woman. She very clearly values men over women.

Ember Green did an excellent video essay that touches on this topic.

Goblins didn't strike me as jews exactly because they were friends with Harry Potter's world Hitler.A big nose and banking isn't enough.

There's a Wikipedia entry on Jewish sterotypes. You could turn it into a drinking game, if you'd like to die of alcohol poisoning.

Edit: As a child I looked past these things. I didn't see them, I lacked the cultural context. I'm no longer a child, and now it's blatantly obvious.

These books were written by a grown-ass woman who couldn't possibly be so stupid as to name the only fucking Chinese character Cho Chang on accident. Her name is almost Ching Chong!

She couldn't have been ignorant to the nazi rhetoric she spewed out, or the pro-slavery bits.

The books are soaked with racism, ableism, and misogyny and I don't understand how anyone can go back to them as an adult, having obtained the cultural context, and still think the stories are okay.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

And according to Joanne KKK Rowling, that's the only way you can be a woman; if you can produce children.

Harry Potter books don't have that assertion to me. There are different positive female figures in the books.

There's no character there beyond that.

Did you read my comment? There were examples of characters beyond that. Your own examples, in fact.

pro-slavery bits.

Hermione is opposed to slavery, even though elves themselves don't consider it so (who knows why - they are magical creatures).
And Hermione is a positive figure. I was sympathetic with her goal when I read the books.

Cho Chang

Chang is a common Chinese surname. Cho - was a miss.
Overall it looked like the author wasn't really bothered to choose some real real name and chose to construct one to emphasize the character's origin.
By the way: Cho Chang was a positive figure also.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 1 points 11 hours ago

Sure. If it makes you feel better, then whatever.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago
[-] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 8 hours ago

There is no argument. You're allowed to believe what you wish, wrong or not. I just don't have the energy to waste on apologists and supporters of such heinous politics. Rowling's politics are apparent in all of her writing, she's always championed outdated eugenicist beliefs. If you choose to ignore that, that's your prerogative and I don't think anything I say or show you will convince you otherwise.

Ergo, this conversation here is just a waste of time for the two of us.

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