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[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 21 points 6 days ago

Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don't want them to rush, i just don't want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 14 points 6 days ago

I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro.

I get the vibe there's not much intention to expand compatibility.

[-] trebach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

They require certain features that most phones don't have in order to be willing to support them. They want phones with GrapheneOS to be impossible to break into even by sophisticated methods such as Cellbrite so it defeats the purpose if it can be circumvented by methods that don't involve the OS.

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 6 days ago

Wait, is my GrapheneOS phone unlikely to be hackable by Cellbrite? That's kind of amazing, I had no idea.

Not hard to achieve. Any zero days cdllbrite finds will be fixed by aosp asap.

Encryption works.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 0 points 6 days ago

My current daily driver is an HMD Skyline and it's been great thus far and repairability is good but it isn't listed anywhere as being supported by alternative OSs.

[-] jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

The skyline has a locked bootloader that can''t be unlocked by users.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 1 points 6 days ago

Wasn't aware of that... well shit...

[-] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

They're working with Motorola to make a device

[-] trebach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

It's supposed to be out next year but only the highest end devices will be supported because GrapheneOS requires certain security features in the firmware and hardware that Pixel 11, the lower end Motorola devices, and the other brands don't/won't have.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Seems like Pixel 11 has the hardware but they turned the Arm Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) off in firmware for 'performance' reasons. gOS has been able to turn it back on, but the jury's still out on whether they'll support it as I understand it.

[-] hash@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

I looked at Motorola's current devices to get a sense and it's pretty sad. My plan of sticking with my used 1TB 9 Pro (non XL) holds. Honestly I need to look at phone insurance because I want to ride this thing out the full 7 years of support.

[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11).

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's just one of the things required for graphene, there are a lot of hardware security features that are also required. Only Pixels (not Pixel 11) have these so far, but the Motorola phones will change that of course.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

As of now, for clarification, Pixels 6-10 series, Tablet and Fold are supported by GrapheneOS. The new Motorola phones releasing next year will also support GrapheneOS.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For clarification, only some Motorola phones, likely expensive flagship models, for now.

[-] sanitation@lemmy.today -4 points 6 days ago

Yeah but can you really trust pixels? Google hardware, ewww. I would rather pay more for proper hardware

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 5 points 6 days ago

Google put out a surprising amount of documentation that allowed graphene to build everything they needed from the ground up. It basically wasn’t possible to do anything as secure and independent of Google software on any other model.

Ironically, the phone Google makes is the only option right now to get fully away from Google. Motorola is working with graphene to release a model that meets the main criteria, but it’s not out yet.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Buying a Google phone in order to get rid of Google seems sort of counterproductive, doesn't it?

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 points 6 days ago

Exactly why i would like to have on the phone i have now.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social -1 points 5 days ago

only if you can't handle nuance

Pixel 4a is great and less than $100

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