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Badlands and Toad Hall announced over the weekend that use of the controvresial technology would end for now.

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[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago

Why would any bar use any kind of face scanning tech?

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago

Just repeating an arguement I have seen:

There are always troublemakers, especially so at gay bars. An automated ID system allows for instantly detecting and ejecting them. Without the automated system, you have to get all of the bouncers across all of the bars to somehow share ID of the bad actors, which is hard, so people can slip through.

Whether that justifys risking leaking the identities of all of the legit patrons, I dunno, but clearly some of the bars thought so...

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 9 points 1 day ago

That is the ad hoc argument to justify doing this, obscuring the real purpose.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

If your trying to insinuate that a bunch of gay night club owners are somehow data harvesting for big AI, then all I have to say is that the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Not everything is a big conspiracy.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 1 day ago

All cctv cameras are connected to facial recognition, a lot of doorbell and civilian ones too, in case you have been living in a news free bubble for the past 20 years.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

And AI is the new sticker they slap on those exact same systems. Its just marketing.

The objection people had to the system was the facial recognition system, not the AI part. Whether its classic face recognition or AI recognition, no one wants to be tracked going into a nightclub, especially if they may not be publically out of the closet.

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

I'll make it very easy for you, no it doesn't justify that. Nothing justifies that.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

CCTV cameras are everywhere, as are doorbell cameras and all the rest. Any of those that gets in the hands of authorities, which is almost all of it, they run facial recognition on. It's been like that for a very long time, although facial recognition was virtually worthless for a long time but in the last 15 years has improved remarkably but still lacking.

There was a spate of long time fugitives that were busted like whitey bulghar whatever that boston gangster The Departed was loosely based off of, were caught. I believe that was the point they improved the tech to a large degree. It's better with white people than minorities, or at least was because it was trained on more white faces.

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