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Morality and the law are loosely correlated
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this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2026
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This is a discussion I have in my ethics classes. I like to use Kohlberg's Model of moral development (one of many options) as the framework for the discussion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development
Under than model, all too many people (upwards of 40% in one study) get stuck at level 4, which means they see the law as the moral system. Dangerous thinking that's often how bullies, political evils, and Authoritarians gain power over the public. Once they can control the laws, those people will just follow along because they can't even envision how challenging the law for humanity's well-being is even possible.
Stage 7: we are just another species on this rock. What if a Rhesus Ape dominated and burned forests for their crop, littered persistent and poisonous plastic everywhere? Would you also sometimes get mad like Elephants do?
Right?
That's true, but the purpose of laws is to establish a bare minimum of satisfactory behavior in contemporary society.
That is to say, people who don't understand why you shouldn't steal things, are still held to that standard of behavior.
if that was the case, the stealing class wouldn't have robbed people for hundreds of years. yet, stealing is now called “profit.”
Very strong I'm-13-and-this-is-deep energy. Well done.
Very strong I-don't-have-any-actual-counter-arguments-so-I-resort-to-personal-insults energy. Well done.
There's not really any counter argument to be made to a argument like "profit is theft"
don't snipe at people 'cause they understand society better than you do. that's exactly why you should be taking notes instead of talking back.
Do I have to take my notes in the existing shower thoughts format or can I transcribe to plain english?