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that would be the advent of agriculture probably, and i'm an early 19th century CE history nerd not a beginnings of civilization history nerd wikipedia can teach you better than i can
i mean, i grew up near an ancient american indian limestone mine. I do not know the history well enough, but i hear there was a sizeable city. the second ghost town on the site (built in the 1900s) reached a population of around 500. I hear that was the small one, but again, you're getting it from an unreliable narrator after a few hundred to a thousand years.
The "early 19th century CE history nerd" trying to detract from the harmful consequences of the Industrial Revolution by trying to claim 'we've always been like that'? I never could've seen this coming 🙄
You know all too well what I'm talking about. In fact, by your own admission, you should know it better than me. So the fact that you're so eager to use one of the oldest (and weakest) rhetorical defenses in the book should speak volumes to anyone else listening/reading this
yes, i do know all too well what you're talking about. when do you expect the land around the limestone mine to recover? and when was it opened?
aww, i'm sorry my data point (and i can provide more if you'd like) disagrees with your argument so you want to fall back onto the old ben shapiro debate style.
Around the same time you stop using whataboutisms and goal-post-shifts to attempt to win all your arguments. So probably never in our lifetimes
A counter example is not whataboutism. Try again.
An example of whataboutism: you complain about environmental destruction but you are using a computer and talking to us through a data center.
Unironically you
I literally said it was an example of a logical fallacy and you think you are dunking on me with a gotcha?
How embarrassing.