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Hello programmers! I’ve been making a living for a couple of decades figuring out stuff for people and coding whatever will make them happy. It’s fun. I’ve grown to prefer the people to the coding but I still get a kick out of the whole thing.

The problem is: at the job we’re being asked to pivot to vibe coding. At this point the order is to use it for all code, read the slop carefully, argue with the machine for way too long and only then open that PR. Massive productivity gains are expected. I’m appalled from an ethical, philosophical and professional standpoint. We’re a non-profit ngo ffs. My colleagues are fine with it. If I get even slightly critical the group goes awkwardly silent and I get comments on how all the programmers they know from other places don’t code anymore.

If this is how it goes from now on, I’m out. Is it really though? Are all businesses switching to vibe coding? Have some of you started switching career? I think I want to go to meatspace. Hand-made coding could make a cute hobby.

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[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago

arguing with the gibberish Claude or GPT claims is English

You're right to push back on that -- I've been using Claudish the whole time and this actually changes everything. If we use English instead, each one of these comments could be a single, concise line. One thing worth knowing: This is not a minor boost to understanding, but a complete game changer. Understanding my bullshit has been gated behind speaking LLMese.

Nah, really, I've been able to get fairly decent code out of the newer models since I work with a very popular language. Not one-shotted of course, but after some change requests or manual changes. But the language these models speak (including the Chinese ones, it seems) is infuriating and they seem to insist on tons of super long comments in places where the code itself feels self-explanatory. My philosophy is to write "why" comments, not "how" comments, but not a single model seems to agree with me.

I look at it like installing an IKEA kitchen, it’s slop, but it looks nice

Are IKEA kitchens really that bad? I've been looking to remodel my ancient kitchen and it comes to 5-6k EUR, appliances included (minus the fridge, I upgraded that a while ago), from IKEA. If I ask a carpenter to do a proper one, that's going to be more like 10-20k and I don't wanna spend that kinda money lol

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

IKEA kitchens are great?! We've had ours for a long time now. And even moved once and took the kitchen with us. It's easier to assemble than their competition, the surface of my cupboards has higher quality than some other kitchens I've seen. There's no silly salesman in the process who tells you it's 17,000€ but you get a special discount and only need to pay 10,000€ if you order it today... You can just grab additional cabinets 12 years later...

I didn't buy the appliances at IKEA, though. And I found nicer alternatives for the sink, plumbing, ~~countertop~~ worktop as well. But the rest is from IKEA and I'm A-okay. Also like my IKEA wardrobe.

Only downside is if you don't assemble it yourself. I had a look at their price table for assembling it, and that service was a bit expensive, I think. At least where I live.

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago

And even moved once and took the kitchen with us.

For anyone confused, this is common in some parts of the world. Taking your entire kitchen with you to a new home is a thing.

And yeah, appliances aside, IKEA has great countertops, cabinets, and so on.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 2 days ago

Yes. I mean it doesn't have to be like that. You're also allowed to (try to) sell the kitchen to the next person. But the landlords usually don't want to be bothered with the upkeep, fix appliances or get insurance in case the plumbing floods your stuff. So they regularly just provide people with the walls, heating... And since it's a bit difficult to move the loo, the bathroom will be okay and contain a toilet, shower and sink including faucets 😅

And turns out I misspoke. I meant I got a worktop at some other place, not the entire countertop.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think IKEA has different price points

The ones installed when I moved in were those cheap particle board counter tops and cabinets, so when my dishwasher leaked everything expanded and cracked and can never be fixed. A real wood or high quality MDF would have been okay with a one time water event (if dried properly)

It stood up for years, worked fine, wasn’t awful. Just was cheap and not resilient.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Absolutely hate the “how”, that’s comment garbage.

But it perfectly matches what you’d get in annotated data or intro medium blog style writing.

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