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But instead of a gun, he's holding a bag of money. It must be really hard for a grammy award winning musician who is only worth hundreds of millions of dollars, who just wants to sell his music to everyone, including genocidal pieces of shit.
This is about a rich person, trying to play both sides, in a game of genocide. He doesn't deserve your sympathy. He cries on stage, because he wasn't succesful, not because he's sorry.
after seeing kraft getting other football owners to blacklist him, he only came out because he was afraid of getting blacklisted himself. even then hes trying to not bite krafts hand.
Did you miss the part where he’s already worth hundreds of millions of dollars? Ed Sheeran could play in pubs for the rest of his life and never have to worry about a thing. He’s just being greedy and self-serving.
This is about a successful musician, taking no sides, not wanting anything to do with politics, who republicans successfully vilified and now every lefting is at his throat. Why is it so evil to not do politics? He's not harming anyone.
Dude grew up in a hardcore white family where he had no proper childhood and was basically forced to keep studying and playing music. People like that are not happy, trust me. RIP Avicii.
Or maybe, just maybe, dude is tired of all this shit, wants to just do his job, but ends up being the center of one of the biggest celebrity dramas of 2026
And no, I don't give a shit that he's rich, I'm not the type to start hating someone just because he's richer or more successful than me. He didn't get the money by stealing or exploiting.
Yeah no, you spend a decade making music about peace and making tons of money out of it. And then at a time when you have enough financial security and popularity you don't speak against child murderers? You don't even support your fellow artists who do? Then fuck off with love and peace, just go do country music about your problematic childhood or something. People in worse conditions have had their lives destroyed by zionist lobies because they have spoken against Israel. I don't expect everyone to be that brave, but if you have built a sphere of influence, fame and lots of money, I would expect you to give back to the community who gave you all these.
He's doing what he can. He might not be a warrior, but at least he can convince others with songs. Your world view is depressing.
He can't even say that there is genocide or that it is the state of Israel who is killing children. The attack of Hamas in the Israel concert was horrific yes, I hope they rot in hell for that. But your opening band gets cancelled because they are pro-palestine, and you lead with that sentence? Tells me what I need to know. He is just dancing around the issue, trying to play both sides so he don't lose his comforts. Him demonstrating how far reaching zionist lobies are thanks to this rucus is more useful than anything he has ever done. I am sorry my world view is depressing you but the actual world is even more depressing. If someone is getting rich from selling a view of world that is not, yet actually not doing anything of substance when it is within their capability, that is hypocritical and more depressing to me.
No such thing, you're just taking the oppressor's side.
I’d really like to find more media convincing people of the fallacy of neutrality. The closest I can think is a line in Hitman World of Assassination.
"If you're not with us, you're against us"
You sure you want to take that stance? You sure you want to see everyone who does not agree with you as the supporter of evil? Sounds like oppressionism to me.
Except we aren’t talking about them. We’re talking about a genocide. People on the side of the genocide are deffo supporters of evil. Now go oppression yourself somewhere else.
Someone else who didn't do politics: Werner Von Braun. Slaves, death camps, American military funding, it was all the same to him as long as the rockets went up.
Ed Sheeran can get fucked, and so can you.
It's impossible to "not do politics", that's a bullshit excuse for taking whichever political position is easier and more self serving, or requires less thought. Sheeran chose to comply with demands to deplatform one of his supporting acts, to silence dissent against zionist interests. There was no apolitical decision to be made. A choice not to act is still a choice. He had to pick a side and he picked the genocidal one.
Don't get me wrong, I think what he did was dumb and selfish rather than deliberately evil, and I can sympathize with that to a degree. He just wanted to maintain a comfortable status quo. But we should recognize that inaction and compliance in the face of injustice makes us all complicit, and there are times when the degree of complicity is simply unacceptable.
You do realize he's not the one who did the ultimatum against Macklemore, right? There was no way he was going to continue. Ed's two options were cancel the tour and pay the dude (who supports genocide) 70 or so millions of dollars (cancellation fee), or just finish the thing.
Even Macklemore came out to defend Ed and was quite clear he's not to blame.
So, what would you do - pay Kraft 70 million, or continue solo?
Speak against genocide live on stage? Bash Kraft to the ground live on stage for what he did? Roll a list of brand shares that he has and tell people to boycott them? Declare live on stage that some portion of the concert revenue will be used to support Palestine aid groups? With any of these Kraft would have lost (and depending on how brave you are some would give him grounds for legal repercussions some would not). With the meek response that Ed has given, Kraft has gotten away with what he did. No consequences is how you don't get peace.
You do realize ed absolutely had the power to stand with Macklemore. He chose not to. Ed chose to support the genocide.
Macklemore is being nice, as friends generally are.
Ed Sheeran could not play this entire tour, and live the rest of his life financially stable and then have wealth leftover for his family's family.
Dude who doesn't even need it, chose the genocide.
I'm not buying this bullshit anymore. Human lives over money, every single time.
How the fuck is an artist playing music = supporting genocide? How is refraining from political statements = taking sides? How is organizing a tour with Pro-Palestine people = being a complete wanker? Why is such massive cyber bullying okay when he literally didn't hurt anyone and was basically afraid? Lefties, u ok?
EDIT: This might actually be my first time using a word "lefties" ever since I turned centric (was fully on the left, but over months Lemmy convinced me to keep a distance). Both far sides are nuts.
EDIT: Another one: https://www.threads.com/@billboard/post/DddTCGrDot5/
Not even the artists are on your bullying side. Conservatives did a move and now y'all are attacking the one guy that didn't do shit. How is he more hated than Kraft??
"How is refraining from political statements = taking sides"
It doesn't have to be taking sides. It is just not a good behaviour.
Imagine someone is walking in the street and another person is killing a child. Is it taking sides to walk by and not even call the police? Maybe not, but it sure as hell is a horrible behaviour. Imagine now this person who does nothing is actually a prominent kid books' author. That is Ed in a nutshell.
He's an artist. I think you really need to understand what that means. Some inspire with action, some with protests, others with riots, someone else by offing some health insurance CEO, and then there are some who inspire people with songs. He's not the type to attack the killer, but he's the type to inspire 10 other people to fight back. What is so hard to understand about this?
Answer me this - Did Ed bring attention to Palestine by organizing this tour, accepting Macklemore, allowing him to do his thing, and then getting into drama?
You cannot tell me what happened hurt Palestine. It was straight up one of the more successful events that brought attention to Palestine.
Again, claiming to not take a side when we can all see with our eyes that genocide is taking place, is in fact taking a side.
Ignoring something IS a stance, I hate to be the one to apparently burst this bubble for you, but you can't just opt out of life and claim things don't matter to you.
You're giving me the "I don't do politics and that's fine" argument.
Politicians literally dictate our entire lives and silence in the face of political injustice isn't JUST a stance, it's downright cowardice.
Also duh fuck Robert Kraft stop the crap man, two people can in fact work together to be pieces of shit.
It's like with Russians and zionists where "if you're not with us, you're against us".
"things don't matter to you" does not equal apolitism or nonpartisanship. Artists who refrain from politics or speaking on geopolitical matters were historically regarded as more respectful. Each time I saw one doing it, wave of people commented "maybe celebrities should not do political speeches", but I guess that's false if it's someone you agree with, and true if it's someone you disagree with, just like with censorship on opposite side.
I'm sure you expected to do spy shit when you joined the CIA, instead you're here, claiming that Lemmy made you a centrist.
...what? Spy shit? CIA? Yeah, many of you are still crazy.
So, you're not a CIA shill? You're really trying to pin your political views on us? I'll male it even easier for you: once the revolution happens you'll end up in a laogai-style camp.
.....what the fuck are you talking about Jesse.
Also, I'm from EU
EDIT: I'm actually curious - what political opinion? The fact that both far sides are nuts (like you're successfully showcasing)? Would not CIA dislike me for shitting on far right? What political opinion would CIA hold? Pretty sure they are not independent and does what your government tells them to do.
It's true that he was in a corner and there was no easy way out, and I'm sure Macklemore never wanted to put him in that position. He still made the wrong choice though.
He could have dug his heels in and defied Kraft, maybe cancel the tour, whatever it takes. If it cost him 70 million, he can afford that, but given the unreasonable basis of Kraft's demands, I expect there's a legal case to be fought there. He would have had a lot of support, and it would have been a public disgrace for Kraft. Sometimes you just need to grow a spine and do what's right. Money isn't everything.
I do feel some sympathy for Ed Sheeran. He just wanted to do his thing and not be in the political spotlight. And when it comes to punishing people for complying with injustice, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. But I am glad of the conversation it has sparked. When the time comes to not comply, we need to recognize that moment, and we also need to recognize what it means to say "I don't do politics".
I feel that maybe Kraft has something on him? I have no proof, and maybe Ed really is just a shit greedy fuck.
And my mind is having a field day thinking about the outrageous things Ed is afraid will get out.
he can blacklist ed shareen from ever playing a stadium which can hurt him like it did with macklemore(initially)
It's not that complicated really. Ed Sheeran is a spineless coward, and he doesn't want to jeoparidize the career he's built by being the male equivalent of Taylor Swift. He just doesn't have any moral fibre.
I honestly don't understand how people keep forgetting this
Gingers
Have
No
Soul
Ginger Baker would like a word
they also have the ability to absorb/suck souls from non-gingers
👍🏼 agreed