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[-] gamerdonkey@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 12 hours ago

A couple years ago in the US, they switched from largely paper-based driver logging and random checks to an all-electronic tracking system, which was much more difficult to fake. Basically overnight, every rest stop and free truck parking area was jam-packed, and states have had to expand them since. It's important to note that nothing about the rest requirements actually changed, just how they were enforced. So, logically, before the electronic logging, a large number of truckers were just flagrantly ignoring the law, and it became evident after the fact.

I wonder if there's a name for that kind of phenomena.

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 hours ago

I don't know about a name. I will just write it once more as this is yet another example of: "self-regulation is the same as no regulation".

[-] UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You think we would have learned this from school. When there’s no teacher in the room to watch the testing, some kids alway cheat. The more they get away with it, the more kids decide to cheat. This seems super basic, but somehow they still convince people “self regulation” works.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

self-regulation is the same as no regulation

Yup!

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago

A couple years ago? My grandpa was a trucker and this changed before he died over a decade ago.

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Time flies. I was in the industry, working for one of the first companies to install electronic tachographs into trucks. When I left in 2011, our customers were largely hazardous materials transporters, with a sprinkling of companies that were caught with so many HOS violations that the DOT ordered them to use devices like hours. That was indeed more than a decade ago, but it feels like yesterday.

[-] gamerdonkey@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, I guess the paper logs phaseout started in 2017, so a couple more years than a couple 🤣

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-service/elds/implementation-timeline

As they say: time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like an banana.

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