The point is moot. With diesel skyrocketing they won't be able to drive at all.
Trump is doing something Algore could only have wet dreams about.... Trump is ending the Diesel and internal combustion engine (poorly planned acronymy). He might not like it but as soon as he is out and all the refineries are in shambles something has to replace all that. Probably hydrogen, and battery powered vehicles.
...it might be a new benefit in hiring, we'll compensate a per centage of your fuel costs...after two months...and we've earned interest on it..follow my rabbit hole for further financial advice.../s?
Then the industry practice will be to fore all the truckers with than benefit after 1 month, 3 weeks, 6 days so they don't have to pay it.
Lol. The U.S. is on a suicide speedrun.
As a non-American, I find it baffling and hilarious that many Americans are proud to work 80 hours a week. It's not a flex. They'd regret having done so when they become too frail and forgetful at the old age. And all the money they saved and pension being collected will be spent on healthcare and medication instead.
They did not even live their life when they were young and they won't even enjoy the remainder.
Jokes on you, I'm young(ish) and not enjoying it already. Haven't been enjoying it since about 2002.
We don't even have pensions.
Nah, it's been a marathon this is just that last sprint before the finish.
A couple years ago in the US, they switched from largely paper-based driver logging and random checks to an all-electronic tracking system, which was much more difficult to fake. Basically overnight, every rest stop and free truck parking area was jam-packed, and states have had to expand them since. It's important to note that nothing about the rest requirements actually changed, just how they were enforced. So, logically, before the electronic logging, a large number of truckers were just flagrantly ignoring the law, and it became evident after the fact.
I wonder if there's a name for that kind of phenomena.
I don't know about a name. I will just write it once more as this is yet another example of: "self-regulation is the same as no regulation".
You think we would have learned this from school. When there’s no teacher in the room to watch the testing, some kids alway cheat. The more they get away with it, the more kids decide to cheat. This seems super basic, but somehow they still convince people “self regulation” works.
self-regulation is the same as no regulation
Yup!

A couple years ago? My grandpa was a trucker and this changed before he died over a decade ago.
Time flies. I was in the industry, working for one of the first companies to install electronic tachographs into trucks. When I left in 2011, our customers were largely hazardous materials transporters, with a sprinkling of companies that were caught with so many HOS violations that the DOT ordered them to use devices like hours. That was indeed more than a decade ago, but it feels like yesterday.
Yeah, I guess the paper logs phaseout started in 2017, so a couple more years than a couple 🤣
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-service/elds/implementation-timeline
As they say: time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like an banana.
Then we'll be expected to ignore the immediate uptick in related accidents and fatalities
Why do you think every other billboard on the interstate is for some lawyer suing truckers? Then trucker insurance goes up and they pass that expense on to shippers and everything gets more expensive. Businesses don’t care because everything’s is owned by the same private equities anyway - so the rich get richer.
Yup, my father drives semi's hauling cargo, and he's seen and told me of the number of horrific accidents that happen. We live in the same city and if he tells me of a recent accident he's seen, it almost never is reported through the news, but that could be biased since I don't search all of the news sites for it. But when a semi ploughs through a line of cars, killing several people on the freeway that were stopped from a previous accident ahead of them, I would expect to see it on most local stations...but it wasn't. Similar accident with long team haulers, driver fell asleep at wheel hit another semi from behind, destroyed the truck killing both, my father said as he drove by the accident he could see body parts strewn along the road. So, so many stories.
PS all this has me extreme vigilant and paranoid when driving around semi's on the freeway, especially those people who can't pass a semi and just hang out next to them matching their speed when I'm trying to get around them too
Like any recurring events it's boring reporting every deadly event in a city. Like suicides or school shooting. Next your going to want the wether to be news or sporting events to end every news show. Should they hire a different person to explain eather of these things.
Car companies don't want their advertisement to be muddled by car crashes.
Unrelated, it could be because of those leftists and their Biden era agendas!!!
Too many bike lanes - someone who lives where a bike lane has never been considered
The problem will solve itself when diesel runs out in a few weeks, from what i hear the whole fuel production system is strained to the limit, so a even a small breakdown will give ripples through the system.
If you’re driving 16 hours a day, then your cargo should probably be going by rail.
Well this is fuel hauling, so multiple stops or loads in a day to service stations. Even if they had rail service set up at the gas station for delivery, rail companies in the US hate small customers like that these days.
Just a couple of years ago in my neighborhood a truck driver was arrested because he offloaded 4000 gallons of gasoline at a gas station, then ran the hose down an embankment next to the station and pumped the remaining 8000 gallons into a creek. He did this because he wanted to go home and didn't feel like making the rest of his stops. He apparently thought nobody would notice; for bonus points this was right next to a charter school which had to be evacuated while they cleaned up the mess.
He was arrested and sentenced to 20+ years in prison. This is the intelligence level that can get hired as a fuel truck driver (TBF I'm sure they're not all that stupid).
Edit: just for funsies, the gas station where this happened recently rebranded as a "Freedom Fuel" station lol.
I've herd of people dumping the news papers they had to deliver in order to say they diliverd them. But this is different. Doesn't the guy need to get the invoice signed at every station?
I think his strategy was to tell his bosses he had run out of fuel and wouldn't be able to make the rest of his deliveries. But I dunno, the articles about this never said what his thought process was. I drive past this station twice a day and the stink from it was horrible. 8000 gallons is a lot of fucking gas.
This reminds me that years ago I was friends with a bunch of Red Bull girls. Their job was to pick up the Red Bull mini-cooper, fill it with cases of Red Bull and then drive around handing out free samples wherever people were while being attractive. They were very good at the being attractive part, but most days they would just drive to the river, dump the cases of Red Bull in it, and then go home and get high. Their bosses suspected something like this was going on and gave them all Windows Mobile PDAs that tracked their location by GPS. I checked out the tracking app (I was a Windows Mobile developer at the time) and it turned out it just logged their GPS coordinates once an hour into a plain text file. I showed them how to edit the file to make it look like they were driving around -- just doing my part saving at least some people from trying fucking Red Bull.
Slavery.
Truckers arent going to be driving anywhere if the price of diesel doesnt slow.
Fun fact: it's definitely not going to slow. It's about to get even worse. Unless of course the government decides to subsidize the hell out of diesel to make it cheaper.
Even the original 14 is horrible. Here it's 9-10 hours per day max, with a cap of 56 hours per week.
I was about to say, they are alliwed 14 hour drives? Clownshit
Hell yeah!!! More fatal trucking collisions LETS FUCKING GOOOO!!!!
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