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after 15 years, iOS has finally caught up with all the main android features, such as

  • very mid ui design
  • kinda floaty feeling
  • unpolished vibe android itself has progressed little, although it is rapidly achieving feature parity with iOS on "locked down user hostility". overall both ecosystems look very appealing, energetic, and healthy, for shareholders

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[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 91 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

IOS is soon to recognize that data can be stored in these things called "files" that are located in what's called a "folder" and maybe the user can even decide where on this thing called a "hard drive" these "files" and "folders" are located instead of typing into a random search bar.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago

Folders? What's that normie tech illiterate win95 nonsense? My device has directories, tyvm.

[-] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago

They do actually have a pretty decent file manager. Unsurprisingly you can’t access system files, at least as far as I know. It’s not nearly as robust as what you can do on android, but it is easy to use.

[-] PagPag@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

Why you trying to stop the circle jerk with pesky facts? Shame on you

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago

I get unbelievably angry using an iPad now. They've completely fucked up the file system and its impossible to know where anything is. By design. I hate modern computing so much.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 26 points 1 day ago

It's always been like that. I had one of the first ipads as part of a trial to see if they were useful for grading papers in grad school. No. It was completely fucking useless because the only way to open files for editing was through sixteen shitty cloud services that each app wanted you to use. There was no way to just download files, edit them, and then put them back on blackboard like a normal fucking computer. The whole ordeal actually made me angry.

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Basically the only apple mobile device I actually used was a gen 1 iPod touch I instantly jailbroke so I'm not super familiar. I use a Mac mini only for music but osx is getting so shitty now I'm wanting to change again or go back to 10.5 lol.

Got a powermac g4 cuz I wanted one again (and it came with a CRT monitor I wanted) and I was blown away how smooth it runs with 512 mb of ram. We have truly gone downhill a long fucking way in 20 years. I remember when I was optimistic about tech.

[-] kingkong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

they made it so u need to ask siri to get it i bet. LMAO ai slop and hallucinations will just bring you the wrong file XD

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago

Fucking idiotic.

Imagine being a kid growing up today with this type of computing. Its zero surprise so many kids are absolute dolts.

[-] adjectivenoun@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Not to "My generation good other generations bad," but Millennials and Gen X really grew up with technology as it was becoming impressively capable, but required a lot of technical know-how to use. It's really apparent in the workplace: our fresh-out-of-college guys and ready-for-retirement guys alike come to people around my age when stuff isn't working. Everything's too easy now, and it's hard to look under the hood. (Of course, there are still exceptions for enthusiasts, but you're never forced to tinker with a raspberry pi.)

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Totally. Thank goodness I wasnt born any later. If anything I'd wish earlier !

Its scary watching clueless parents give their children full reign of iPads and the corpo net. There aren't enough tech literate parents out there to train kids how it all really works, and we know schools sure as heck aren't. I am almost positive we will see the most ignorant generation since the boomers now. I fear for my future medical needs to be taken care of by Hunter who grew up with YouTube kids and only used the gibbity from age 4 and up.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

As someone in a different professional environment I will tell you that Hunter will get fired and you will be served by geriatric gen x and then millenials until we figure out how to keep people from being so incredibly stupid that they can't perform basic tasks, much less practice medicine or law or engineering

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

you will be served by geriatric gen x and then millenials

Is it because they are more knowledgeable or just too poor to retire?

[-] lokalhorst@feddit.org 24 points 1 day ago

My sister made some photos for me with her iPad recently. I told her to sent me the photos but she just didn't know where they were. She could access them with some photo apps but the file system was completely obfuscated. She looked to me because I am the tech guy in our family but I had no idea.

[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 day ago

When I used iOS last, a few years ago, photos were not considered files. (Yep... let that thought digest for a bit). This made things like SyncThing/Mobius useless. IIRC photos were managed through some separate API for "security reasons".

To access photos on a connected iDevice from a Linux machine, you need iFuse, and even then, iOS presents you all images at once. So your photos, received photos, downloads, screenshots, are all in one big pile. Have fun. Oh, but they are split into folders. By number.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago
[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ah yes, I love when i am considered the tech guy and everyone just turn to me when something on their device does not work, especially when it's made by apple or is a printer...

[-] tyler@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Made some photos or took some photos? If she just took photos they’re just in the photos app. But if she made something like with procreate or something then there’s just a normal file system you can access with the Files app. It’s all Unix under the hood, you can even install terminals and navigate around.

See there's your problem, you need to squeeze the yellow testicle two times then spit on the baby chicken and yell "Hooty Hoo" and the files are right there. It will all make sense once you get used to it.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago

What are you talking about? You literally need to click a single “share” button. I honestly don’t understand how anyone remotely tech related could struggle with this.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You didn't explain to me where the file is, you explained how to share one file. Some people like to do this thing with files called ORGANIZE them. Like how back in the day there used to be paper files, in paper folders, in a metal cabinet. That way you can easily find a specific file AND you can transfer the folder with all the organization intact or transfer a whole cabinet, even to a non-apple machine. I want my file system to be brand agnostic. I don't want to have to learn a new UI every 5 years to figure out how to organize things. I don't want to boot up my circa 2005 macbook pro (assuming it still works) and not have any idea how to find all my old media. Directories were invented in 1983 and work just fine, always have, always will.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago

They are already organized in the photos app. If you don’t like the photos app and how it organizes then you’re free to use a different one. Each app gets its own file system sandbox so if you wanted a simple folder structure that you manually manage, there is no technical reason that isn’t possible on iOS. I’ve personally never looked at other photos apps so I can’t recommend one.

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Each app gets its own file system sandbox

Noice. Is this sandbox accessible (for reading at least) by any other app, including file managers and terminal emulators?

And while we are at it: are the paths to different sandboxes organized in a consistent way?

[-] lokalhorst@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was a Document scanning app. We didn't bother, she found them at home and sent me a USB stick. It's true though that I saw this behavior on some Android founds too, where there was only the system file explorer available.

If she just took photos they’re just in the photos app.

That makes not a lot of sense to me tbh

[-] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago

Why does that not make sense? Photos are in the photos app.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago

It doesn’t make sense to you that photos are in the photos app?

[-] lokalhorst@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

The photos app should of cause be a way to view the photos, but ultimately I expect to access them via the file system.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca -2 points 23 hours ago

Then use a different photos app that supports that?

No one is forcing you to use the default app.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

hard drive

Are you talking about pre-2013 Macs now?

[-] dil@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago

They've had a file and download manager for a while now, not a bad experience

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You're quite the madlad aren't ya?

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, let’s just ignore facts and pretend iOS doesn’t already have this.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Last time I tried using an iPad I had all sorts of trouble getting access to files on my media server. That was like 10 years ago but still not going back based off that experience. Fuck apple.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Seems like you were one year early. Files app was released in 2017. 9 years ago.

Before that you pretty much had to use iTunes to transfer stuff. Now you can just plug in USB and see all the data from files app.

[-] PagPag@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

You were able to use a usb and file transfer to a computer from dcim for many years before this. It was separated by folders based on the month the photo was taken.

Kinda hilarious how out of touch most are in this thread. But it’s expected here.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I recall that, I think I was able to purchase some app to do it wirelessly but the whole process was irritating AF. When I got ahold of an android tablet I was able to set up everything I wanted to do in like 15 minutes.

[-] Dadifer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They've had for a couple years

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